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JaneJeffer · 25/08/2019 21:01

Anyone watching?

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Loopytiles · 15/10/2019 22:25

Ah yes, Richard A as John Thornton.

JaneJeffer · 15/10/2019 22:45

I know kazza the way he says it. Swoon. I love the book ending as well.

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HolyShmoly · 15/10/2019 23:17

Euch! What a frustrating and shitty ending. I wanted froth and tears and happy endings and wet and/or shirtless delicious men. Where were my happy endings?!
If I wanted a shitty representation of how priviledged men can do whatever the fuck they want with no consequences then I'd read a short history of Donald Trump. Mary constantly protects him and doesn't even acknowledge what Charlotte and Sidney have sacrificed for him.
And another note - if Charlotte was this poor country bumpkin, where was she getting all these gowns? Where did her costumes in London appear from? Did she bring a ball gown in her wee overnight bag, just in case?
I'm hoping Stringer's mate will give him a clap round the head and tell him to go up to that there London and become an architect. His Dad was just scared that he would be let down and wanted to protect him but that shouldn't stop him.

God, the rage!

ginghamstarfish · 16/10/2019 09:57

Just seen this thread is still going - the first episode was enough for me. What a pile of crap it was, and Jane Austen must be turning in her grave. Everything about it was wrong for the period, the sets look like painted theatre backdrops, the language was wrong. What a cheek to associate it with the name of such a great author. A new low for ITV drama.

lululup · 16/10/2019 11:34

@DrCoconut
Charlotte was a gentleman's daughter, I don't think her being accepted into society was a big deal. She would have been considered a lady according to the social
conventions of the day. Her father has a country estate with tenants.

EBearhug · 16/10/2019 12:22

Reading what Jane wrote, Charlotte's main financial issue was being one of 14 children. In the book, Charlotte's meant to be 22 and Sidney late 20s.

SpookyV · 16/10/2019 12:31

I was suspecting all was not to end well but desperately hoping it would. I do hope ITV/Andrew Davies announce 2nd series soon - it may help do away with all the bad feeling about it if know it can still be sorted out. It is a pity the backlash - whilst I was thoroughly disappointed at ending and felt too much packed in last episode (when 2 episodes solely on cricket and regatta) and too much left unexplained, I have rewatched episode 8 and it fares better (but just wanting 2nd series for true Austin end). I had enjoyed it as a modern take period drama not true Austin but still want the true Austin end (escapism and good feeling). I felt the acting and humour has been very good and although may not be strictly historically accurate it has been enjoyably entertaining and I have rewatched this loads of times (only ever done that with Harry Potter series and Pride and Prejudice). I loved SIdney's Character and was never Team Stringer but I felt he deserved better - not to part with Dad on bad terms like that and go and pursue his interests. I was pleased that Esther and Lord B got together - Esther has been great. One thing I can't understand - did Mary know that Charlotte and Sidney were a thing - I thought from last one that she did but could not understand why she may allow Sidney to be unhappy in a marriage where he does not love to save Tom, if she did. I get Sidney was to propose to Charlotte but he talks of fulfilling his side of the bargain - presuming asking Eliza to invest but found she would only do so if he agreed to Marry. I think giving more insight into that may have helped situation. Why not Lord B (who knew he liked Charlotte) offer to help his friend? Perhaps Georgiana will be allowed to marry Otis and they will put funds in as Sidney helped Otis? She clearly still loves him. I know people have said they won't buy DVD or books now but it doesn't put me off, I have enjoyed the series, emotionally invested and kept me awake too long at night after, watched again and again and still hoping for that happy ever after with Charlotte and Sidney. My favourite bits (apart from the romantic bits) have been the 'Boarding House' scene, Charlotte's response to Sidney and Lady's D dinner and Charlotte imitating Mrs G and Sidney. I am wanting for Sidney not to marry Eliza and that others step in to save Sanditon/Tom and for Clara to be pregnant - forced to marry Edward and perhaps assisted by Lady D? What have others enjoyed about this series and would like to see if another season is commissioned?

lululup · 16/10/2019 13:31

The chemistry between Charlotte and Sidney has been electric. So many shows these seem to have zero chemistry going on. It's all flat but there was a real vibe between them. Also Esther and Babbers too. A proper current communicated so that you were absorbed in the show.

MrsMoastyToasty · 16/10/2019 16:07

@ginghamstarfish I reckon that there was a lot of CGI effects to produce the backdrops. Lady Denhams house was actually Dyrham Park near Bath (so nowhere near the sea) and the beach was at Brean (which has dreadful mud flats).
I couldn't understand why Charlotte's hair was generally loose. I thought that social convention at the time meant that women put their hair up once they had finished their education.

Babybel90 · 16/10/2019 17:59

Have just watched a bit of North & South on Netflix and my goodness what a difference it makes when you’re not constantly being distracted by odd dialogue and period details being wrong!

kazzaD66 · 16/10/2019 18:20

Far better to be distracted by the smouldering John Thornton instead Grin

Rhubarb01 · 16/10/2019 18:20

This is an interesting opinion - especially like the last line!

www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2019/oct/14/sanditon-jane-austen-fans-itv-andrew-davies-ending

Rhubarb01 · 16/10/2019 18:22

Oh and yes to John Thornton...the final scene at the station is just bliss! Smile

Babybel90 · 16/10/2019 18:57

Interesting review Rhubarb, I get the feeling she knows she’s scraping the barrel for an excuse for that ending by saying it’s “an attempt to reach for the fragmented style of Austen’s unfinished novel.” Which might pass if it were an edgy student drama production, but I’m afraid it won’t wash for ITV Sunday night prime time viewing.

ScreamingValenta · 16/10/2019 19:05

Yes, that's an interesting review. I agree it's rather too generous to suggest that the uncertain ending was meant to reflect the unfinished style of the novel.

Why bother writing a continuation of an unfinished novel if you don't intend to finish it?

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JaneJeffer · 16/10/2019 20:23

Jane Austen watching Peaky Blinders Grin

I like the N&S train station ending but I prefer the book ending dialogue and Richard Armitage would have smashed it so I was disappointed they didn't use it.

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SapatSea · 16/10/2019 21:09

JaneJeffer I agree. the book dialogue (N&S) was so much better. I also didn't like how the writer had cut bits and changed things but RA was perfect for the part, exactly how I the book describes him. Daniela Denby Ashe tried but she just isn't how Margaret was described.

I don't understand how Arthur could say he has barely touched his inheritance as he was spending a lot of "cures" and treatment. Why did Arthur and his sister not stay with Tom? Would someone really be so quick to offer all his money to the useless Tom when ruin was a very real risk and no Welfare State safety net? Like others I was angry that Tom seemed to get off so lightly, "Parkers stick together" yeah!

I'm a bit annoyed that Clara had to go back to a life of penury and abuse and Esther who was pretty foul herself gets Lord B and his riches. I'd like a second season,it's enjoyable tosh. Perhaps Young Stringer will go to London and be feted and Chalotte on a visit there will hear people speak highly of him and see him in a different light (Just like Margaret did about JT in N&S)

Babybel90 · 16/10/2019 21:52

@sapatsea @JaneJeffer I’ll have to buy the book at the weekend then, I’m half way through and I love it. I think the BBC really do period dramas so much better than ITV, who always seem to be looking for something they can drag out over several series.

Mothership4two · 17/10/2019 03:56

What a complete load of tosh. Sets and CGI looked really cheap. Acting, in general, wooden but I think that's because actors were struggling with a rotten script. Sex scenes in a Jane Austen! Bloomers and lack of hats - not authentic of the period. No way would women, at that time, be able to go off alone with a man (especially young single ones). Likewise, the main character would not have been able to wander around on her own or go and stay with a couple her parents had just met. Womens' lives then were pretty boring. No depth, humour or real insight into the social politics of the time.

Why was a Jane Austen adaptation given to a man to write in the first place? She was a rare female voice writing about contemporary upper and middle class women. If Andrew Davies wanted to shoehorn in racial and social inequality, incest (a la Game of Thrones), sex scenes and a gay character, why didn't he go off and write a historical drama all of his own?

My personal bugbear is books, films and tv series ending on cliff hangers in a cynical attempt to sell the next sequel.

A complete waste of six hours that we won't be getting back.

EBearhug · 17/10/2019 08:22

Likewise, the main character would not have been able to wander around on her own or go and stay with a couple her parents had just met.

The bit about her staying with a couple her parents had just met is from Jane - though first the Parkers end up staying for a fortnight with the Heywood because of a sprained ankle and broken carriage. I think after two weeks forced residence with someone, you might feel you know them well enough.

EBearhug · 17/10/2019 08:26

I finally she'd reading my 1975 copy of Sanditon by Jane Austen "and another lady", and it is far more credible and satisfactory reading than Andrew Davies, though there are still a couple of bits I was not totally convinced by.

lululup · 17/10/2019 14:00

@Mothership4two

Am interested: what did women wear if not bloomers?

JaneJeffer · 17/10/2019 14:09

Nothing lulu Grin

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CaptainMyCaptain · 17/10/2019 14:11

Apparently, Queen Victoria went to her coronation with no knickers on at all. Bloomers began to be worn some time during her reign but not in the time of JA.

lululup · 17/10/2019 14:38

So just petticoats? No cover at all?

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