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George Clarkes Council House Scandal

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HelenaDove · 24/07/2019 22:22

31 July on Channel 4

tvhighlights.bradfordzone.co.uk/television/tvprogrammes/george-clarkes-council-house-scandal-channel-4-31-july-900pm/

As council housing in the UK reaches its 100th anniversary, George Clarke embarks on his own personal campaign to kick start a new wave of council house building. A child of a council estate, Clarke looks at the reasons for the steep decline in affordable public housing, and meets those who have suffered due to the acute shortage of homes. In a bid to realise his own ambition to create social housing of quantity, and quality, he meets visionary architects of the past, and visits the best and worst examples of housing currently on offer. A trip to Vienna, where social housing can come with indoor and outdoor pools, proves inspirational for his housing vision for the future. George lobbies government to reform housing policy, before taking matters into his own hands in a bid to start a housing revolution. Prod Co: Amazing Productions

on next Wednesday

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Inappropriatefemale · 17/08/2019 09:29

thought is meant to be though
I’m is meant to be in, damn autocorrect!

CaptainMyCaptain · 19/08/2019 08:48

I thought this was going to be a series. Does anyone know if more are planned or it's just a one-off? Will we ever find out about the Council estate he is planning, will this ever happen and if so how? I need to know.

Inappropriatefemale · 19/08/2019 11:36

Where was the council estate with the balconies that went down the building at an angle and had lots of greenery in them because it didn’t look like the UK, it looked beautiful!

KaySarahSarah · 19/08/2019 11:39

Vienna?

CaptainMyCaptain · 19/08/2019 12:03

It was Vienna.

KaySarahSarah · 19/08/2019 12:06

It looked very well done.

Inappropriatefemale · 19/08/2019 12:07

It was stunning, nothing like hereSad

CaptainMyCaptain · 19/08/2019 12:12

I can image, being in Austria, there are some strict rules regarding anti-social behaviour and that would be no bad thing.

CaptainMyCaptain · 19/08/2019 12:13

Imagine not image

stumbledin · 19/08/2019 12:30

Inappropriatefemale - if you mean the estate where blocks of flats face each other and then slope down to a shared path way at the foot it is a famous estate in Islington.

But not sure how much of it is still social housing.

(It is often used in tv and films)

Just cant remember its name, but will try and remember or ask around.

stumbledin · 19/08/2019 12:34

Okay I was wrong! Its Camden.

Looks much better now with the greenery. Initially concrete brutalism.

www.google.co.uk/search?q=Alexandra+Road+estate+Camden&hl=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwia9r6e647kAhV3QxUIHXUHAaIQ_AUIEigC&biw=962&bih=787

Inappropriatefemale · 19/08/2019 12:37

Yeah stumble I did mean the sloping ones and they all had beautiful plants in them, I can’t believe that’s part of the UK, it’s gorgeous!

Surely these ones are social housing otherwise why show us them?

CaptainMyCaptain · 19/08/2019 13:09

Vienna

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CaptainMyCaptain · 19/08/2019 13:10

Camden

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HelenaDove · 21/08/2019 14:51

www.vice.com/en_uk/article/vb5mmy/housing-associations-building-luxury-homes-uk

Exclusive: The Housing Associations Building Luxury Flats Over Social Homes
Many of the country's swanky, aspirational new apartments are built by charities that are supposed to provide housing for the less well off.

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HelenaDove · 22/08/2019 18:02

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HelenaDove · 23/08/2019 03:00

www.aylesburytenantsfirst.org.uk/

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HelenaDove · 26/08/2019 01:38

www.24housing.co.uk/news/strong-message-for-housing-providers-in-latest-population-statistics/

Strong message for housing providers in latest population statistics

Stats show extent to which population is ageing – illustrating the need for housing to keep up.
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New UK population stats send a strong message to housing providers: Get a grip on the hold of the old.

The Office National Statistics (ONS) says that by 2050 one in four people in the UK will be 65 and older – up from around one in five last year.

Overall, 65-plus is the fastest growing group.

“The structure of the UK’s population is changing: People living longer and having fewer children means the age structure is shifting towards later ages,” says Sarah Coates, Centre for Ageing and Demography, ONS.

In June, 24housing reported a cross-party alliance pushing for later living as a housing priority.

A high-profile group of MPs, Lords, charity leaders, and business leaders publicly declared their support for a major expansion of the UK’s Retirement Community sector as a specialist housing priority over the coming decade – seeing the sector quadrupling in size by 2030 to 250,000 people.

The sector already accounts for 75% of all projected growth in the UK’s supply of specialist housing for older people from 2024 onwards.

The ONS references projections that pitch the population share of later-life age groups increasing further in future years.

By 2041, the 1960s’ baby boomers will have progressed into their 70s and 80s, and by 2068 there could be an additional 8.2m people aged 65 years and over in the UK – a population roughly the size of present-day London.

This, ONS says, would take the UK’s 65-plus age group to 20.4m people – accounting for 26.4% of the projected population.

In 1998, around one in six people were 65 and over (15.9%); this increased to one in every five people in 2018 (18.3%) and is projected to reach around one in every four people (24.2%) by 2038.

Comparatively, an estimated 20.5% of the population were under 16 years old in 1998, decreasing to 19.0% in 2018 and a projected decline to 17.4% by 2038.

Again, in 1998, 63.6% of the population were aged between 16 and 64, down to 62.7% in 2018 and a projected decline to 58.4% in 2038.

Within the UK, the older population comprises higher proportions of the populations of rural and coastal areas rather than urban areas.

One traditional measure used to consider the impact of an ageing population is the Old-Age Dependency Ratio (OADR) – which measures the number of people of pensionable age and over per 1,000 people aged 16 years to State Pension Age (SPA).

In 1998, the OADR was 300; by 2008 this had increased to 307, suggesting increased dependency.

In 2018, the OADR decreased to 295.

However, the UK’S OADR is projected to increase into the future, reaching 360 by 2038.

While there are increases to the number of people above State Pension age, the ONS acknowledges seeing the number of people aged 65 and over and in work being higher than ever.

Using an alternative measure that takes into account the contribution of older workers, analysis found that economic dependency has shown an improvement, despite the population becoming older.

Another strong message for providers comes with cohabiting families being the fastest-growing family type and more young adults living with their parents.

The stats show that, since 2008, there have been an additional 700,000 cohabiting couple families – a growth rate of 25.8%.

Meanwhile, more young adults are living with their parents.

In 2018, the first age at which more than 50% of young people left the parental home was 23.

Two decades earlier, more than 50% of 21-year-olds had already left home.

Young men aged 20 to 34 living in the UK are more likely than young women to be living with their parents – 31% and 20% respectively.

In addition, the ONS acknowledges increases in the numbers of people living alone.

Between 2008 and 2018, there has been a 6% increase from 7.5 million to 8 million.

This increase was driven primarily by the increase in the number of older men living alone: a 55% increase for men aged 65 to 74 years and a 20% increase for men aged 75 years and over.

In 2018, nearly half of those living alone (48%) were aged 65 years and over and more than one in four (27%) were aged 75 years and over.

UK Population Overview 2019 – Main Points

In mid-2018, the population of the UK reached an estimated 66.4m
The UK population’s growth rate in mid-2017 and mid-2018, at 0.6%, was slower than any year since mid-2004
Long-term international migration to and from the UK has remained broadly stable since the end of 2016 and has also continued to be the main driver of the UK’s population growth
In 50 years’ time, there is projected to be an additional 8.2 million people aged 65 years and over in the UK
After decades of improvement to life expectancy, the latest figures show a slowdown in improvement – life expectancy at birth remained at 79.2 years for males and 82.9 years for females in 2015 to 2017

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stumbledin · 26/08/2019 14:46

Hi Helena - its great that you find all these articles, but the problem is people have been writing and campaign about this ever since the right to buy.

Isn't the issue how are we going to bring about social change?

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stumbledin · 26/08/2019 14:53

Earlier in this thread I said I was sure that C4 had done an earlier series with another presenter making virtually the same points as this one.

Well I think is must have been Kevin McCloud and looks like he has been trying to reproduce the small example estate he built in that earlier series.

Only now is seems to have gone a bit pear shaped. www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/aug/22/investors-kevin-mccloud-property-schemes-huge-losses

HelenaDove · 26/08/2019 17:46

@stumbledin To do that the narrative towards social housing has to change. Its now seen as the housing of last resort. It never used to be

There is a hell of a lot of cognitive dissonance going on around this narrative. e,g ive seen posters on here saying that the minute a tenant earns above minimum wage they should buy or go into private rental and let someone who really needs it have the chance to rent their social home. Then the SAME posters moan that they wouldnt buy a property anywhere near a housing eatate because its too much like a ghetto When its what they were bloody insisting it should be. Confused

I know i post a lot of articles but i like to be able to back up and prove what im saying. A lot of council homes have been lost through regeneration and LSVT. Its not the pensioners refusing to move and i like to post proof and figures to demonstrate what i mean.

I really think some of them who insist that pensioners should move and those earning above minimum wage should also give up their social home really dont realize they are spouting right wing ideology.

Some realize full well of course. The narrative around social housing was reframed and needs to change back again.

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stumbledin · 30/08/2019 18:57

Helena - I am sure you and I have had this conversation before but the article from the Guardian about the women being inadequately housed was typical hypocritcal medai coverage which just used Grenfell as click bait.

The situation they were in was totally to do with inadequate funding for women's refuges. Just using it to bash the local tories is as disgusting as the SWP pretending they are representing Grenfell tenats when they aren't. Its political parisitism. This is why Grenfell tenants have asked the media not to work with Justice of Grefell but only with Grenfell united.

The Guardian is one of the worst for not providing consistent historical coverage of the housing issue. They only ever drag it out to score politcal points. If they are other parts of the media had done their job properly over the post few decades we wouldn't have the situation where social housing is thought to be where undesirables are dumped.

stumbledin · 30/08/2019 19:01

Just an example that the poor quality of social housing cuts across all boroughs and councils irrespective of any political party. www.insidehousing.co.uk/news/news/council-block-in-hackney-emptied-due-to-potentially-combustible-insulation-62989

We are living in an era when nobody knows how to actually do anything and gullible pen pushers just accept what they are told is true.

An unionised work force may have caused problems but it often meant the work force was invested in the work carried out and would be prepared to stand up and challenge poor standards and practices.

Now we have workers on zero hours contracts who are powerles and alienated from their work.

Just as stupid as councils who give permission for building on flood plains.