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Handmaid's Tale. EPISODE 7 (season 3). Channel 4, 21/07/19. UK pace. NO SPOILERS!

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OriginofSpecies · 21/07/2019 20:29

Thread for Episode 7 (season 3) of The Handmaid's Tale.

We are watching on Channel 4, UK pace and have only seen episodes 1 - 6 so far.

Please, NO SPOILERS.

OP posts:
BeyondDangerousTshirts · 22/07/2019 22:47

Well I’m among a minority, but I actually enjoyed that episode!

BrienneofTarthILoveYou · 22/07/2019 23:22

Me too @BeyondDangerousTshirts

beanaseireann · 23/07/2019 06:53

Thank you Ivy40

Ivy40 · 23/07/2019 09:30

@LizzieMacQueen

I wondered this too. It’s definitely a possibility. The writers are clever like that though, they suggest things and leave them open.

DramaDrama · 23/07/2019 11:15

Oh, I had missed the bit about the new MA book! How exciting.

Ricky44 · 23/07/2019 12:20

@DramaDrama

Margaret Atwood is doing an intro on book launch day. It will be broadcast at cinemas across the country in early September. Just reminded me to book a ticket.

DramaDrama · 23/07/2019 12:55

Oh thank you!

CurbsideProphet · 23/07/2019 15:43

She's also touring her "In Conversation With" so I'm expecting her to discuss differences between her Gilead and the newer series. I'm really looking forward to seeing Margaret Atwood in person Smile

Ivy40 · 23/07/2019 15:53

It’s on at a cinema near me. Going to see who I can round up and get it booked too.

OriginofSpecies · 23/07/2019 18:00

I caught up with this episode last night. It kind of had a feel of earlier series episodes. It felt as there was more action/tension.

Even though it's grim, I was wondering if they'd ever show a Salvaging on the TV programme. I remember that scene very vividly from the book.

I liked the scenes with Serena at the ball. Her discomfort was obvious around the other wives; she tried to make a joke but it was completely brushed aside. I agree it was a bit like a more "PG" version of Jezebles with music, men for the Wives to look at. Serena talking about viewing the art which was saved. No-one else is allowed to see it, other than those in positions of power. I wondered whether Fred was going to order from the menu for her, or if she'd be given a different menu with photos on Grin. I think it was the Argentine Tango they danced. I think I'm right in saying it was a bit of a taboo dance when it originated? And from the Wikipedia entry: "Its lyrics are marked by nostalgia, sadness, and laments for lost love."

The bit where Serena looked around the house chilled me. I also wondered what had happened to the occupants. The way the other wife dismissively said "they were Baptists" made me wonder if there is something Baptists believe that goes against Gilead's regime and the parents were executed. It certainly looked as though they left everything where it was; no time to pack anything. It also reminded me of the offices June hid in during Series 2 - the way pre-Gilead life had been suddenly cut off.

I liked the connection between Moira and Emily. I guess it makes sense that only survivors would truly get what the other one is going through. Even Luke doesnt really get it and he went through the terror of escaping. I hope they don't have an affair though.

But the stuff with June going to try to see Hannah was ridiculous. What if she had got through the doors, what then? I know she thought an ally was guarding the door, but even that was no guarantee of rescuing Hannah with zero plans in place.

Someone said up thread that June's rash decisions were starting to make her really unlikeable/unsympathetic. I agree. This is not the first time her actions have caused others to end up on the wall (the family who hid her in series 2 as well). She is incredibly selfish, although I understand her motivation.

OP posts:
Ivy40 · 23/07/2019 18:18

@originalspecies

Great review!

Just be a bit careful about mentioning the book as it’s considered to be a spoiler in this thread.

JoxerGoesToStuttgart · 23/07/2019 18:46

It certainly looked as though they left everything where it was; no time to pack anything.

There was broken glass and signs of a struggle in one of the rooms which I interpreted as them being taken rather than fleeing. Sad

AGnu · 23/07/2019 19:19

Phew, finally caught up with the thread!

I had a thought... Where are all the elderly people? We've yet to see anyone properly old/infirm & I've not noticed anyone disabled... Do they just kill off anyone deemed not fit to contribute to Gilead? What about the commanders - once they get old will they have a special retirement home for them or will their younger counterparts do away with them too?!

When they said the MacKenzies had gone I thought they were talking about the Lawrences & couldn't figure out where June had been for her household to disappear without her noticing!

Yy to June getting away with too much - it's just not believable!

Someone should tell her walking partner is it OfMatthew? that she's obviously not as pious & devoted to Gilead as she claims to be, given that she's not silenced herself with rings...

Andylion · 23/07/2019 19:30

It certainly looked as though they left everything where it was; no time to pack anything.

I'm sure a lot of viewers thought about Jewish families being turned out of their homes for members of the Nazi party.

It also made me think about movies, novels, and articles about Nazi Germany. There are accounts of Jews, Communists, members of the resistance, escaping/not being caught, due to sheer dumb luck. Also, there may have been officials who were sympathetic or who were just not that into the regime and were willing to look the other way. When I am feeling generous, I attribute June's luck to this type of conflicted character, although I would expect there to be some indication of this. I don't think we have ever seen a closeup of a guard purposely averting his eyes when June is doing something we are sure would get her punished.

So yeah, plot armour. Smile

Andylion · 23/07/2019 19:32

Where are all the elderly people?

Excellent question.

TheFirstOHN · 23/07/2019 20:17

Elderly commanders / wives might be allowed to retire.
Econowives probably have a short lifespan.
Elderly Jezebels, Marthas etc probably end up in the colonies.

Percypigparade · 23/07/2019 20:44

Serena's mother would be of that generation. She seemed happy enough.

CurbsideProphet · 23/07/2019 20:59

Different rules for different sectors or society? As commanders get older they retire with their wives to the seaside. Ordinary older people were bumped off in the early days of Gilead. Marthas / econo couples are sent to the colonies as they get older.

Abraid2 · 23/07/2019 21:49

I’m finding it bleak but with no sign of a real fight back.
Not sure I want to watch any more executions.

legolimb · 23/07/2019 23:45

I do hope that Emily isn't going be sent back. Why the enquiries into all her 'crimes'? It's not like she was living in a normal environment.

FossiPajuZeka · 23/07/2019 23:47

@Roussette Just for info... subtitles only work when it's being broadcast there and then. They deffo don't work on any catch up as I found out to my cost!

I was able to watch with subtitles (colour coded for each character helpfully) on catch up using the All-4 app on a Samsung smart TV.

@DrinkReprehensibly I think we were being optimistic having separate threads for every episode. There's not a lot to talk about any more

I am really glad there's a separate thread for each one. Due to other commitments I can't watch them when they are broadcast and if all this stuff was on one thread I would see spoilers in my "threads I'm on" page every Monday and Tuesday even if I didn't open the thread. This way is great - I don't join the thread till I have watched it.

DrinkReprehensibly · 24/07/2019 00:26

@FossiPajuZeka
You're right and I understand that. It was more a cheeky criticism of the fact that not a lot has been happening in the episodes thus far. That in itself has spurred more conversation this week and there have been a few more posts so that's good.

Roussette · 24/07/2019 08:38

Fossi
I was able to watch with subtitles (colour coded for each character helpfully) on catch up using the All-4 app on a Samsung smart TV

Now that is weird. I'm doing something wrong then. I have a brand new Samsung TV

Ricky44 · 24/07/2019 08:48

@Andylion

I absolutely thought of Jewish families in Nazi Germany (and the rest of Eastern Europe, let’s not let them get off Scot free).

endofthelinefinally · 24/07/2019 08:54

I wstch on All4 catch up via my laptop, plugged into my very old tv. I can still use subtitles via the All4 site.