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LOVE ISLAND 18 ❤️🏝 - keep it lighthearted for the love of

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tenthstreet · 08/07/2019 08:08

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Birdrib · 09/07/2019 15:35

I don't understand why anyone would watch it, and also come on line to discuss it if they find it tedious. If I find something tedious. I don't watch it and certainly don't engage in threads discussing the characters

Exactly.

Along with diagnosing the characters with mental illnesses or on the spectrum, repeatedly calling them ugly and tearing their looks apart.

So pointless and grim.

jpclarke · 09/07/2019 15:36

When is there going to be a recoupling? Especially now with 2 newbies going in.

Louise0701 · 09/07/2019 15:47

@jpclarke I reckon Friday. Few days with the new ones. I wonder if Marvin will take a shine to new girl? Can’t see her and Ovie.

Bluntness100 · 09/07/2019 15:54

I think a lot of people don't understand mental health of mental illness still, it is not a diagnoses to say she is mentally unwell, it's simply factual based on her evidenced behavuour. What is causing it none of us know.

" mental health is the successful performance of mental function, resulting in productive activities, fulfilling relationships with other people, and providing the ability to adapt to change and cope with adversity"

"six major, fundamental categories that can be used to categorize mentally healthy individuals. These include: a positive attitude towards the self, personal growth, integration, autonomy, a true perception of reality, and environmental mastery, which include adaptability and healthy interpersonal relationships"

Amy is clearly not doing this. Mental illness can take many forms, inc anxiety, stress, depression, and can manifest itself in many ways.

Being mentally ill is not an insult. Or a slur. But clearly. Amy's perception of reality is not what it should be. Her view of her relationship with Curtis is a prime example of this. She is unable to cope with adversity. She has integrated the least with the group. Nor is her Ability to form healthy relationships as it should be., she Even struggles with some of the girls, never mind her ability to manage her relationship with Curtis in a healthy non dependent manner.

Most of these in isolation would be irrelevant, but the Curtis thing is hugely telling, believing that they will get married and have children, as is her crying for days after. And then coupling everything else in on top of it.

Call it what you please, not in a good place,mentally unhealthy, emotionally unstable. Whatever you call it. Her behaviour around her relationship with Curtis is far from normal and healthy

butmaybe · 09/07/2019 15:59

I think a lot of people don't understand mental health of mental illness

I agree- but mental illness cannot be diagnosed by watching 'the patient' on a heavily edited TV show!

The behaviour I find disturbing is the way some posters talk about contestants on here - 'unhinged' 'vile' 'bitch' 'rough' etc. (before we even get to any hint of racism/ misogynism). So quick to vilify people and their behaviour.

I agree with the previous poster who said that it is grim.
And not as the thread title says - lighthearted!

RonaldMcDonald · 09/07/2019 16:02

Amy isn’t mentally ill.
She fell harder for a lad than he did for her. She took the breakup and fallout pretty well, all things considered.
Amy isn’t mentally ill.

Birdrib · 09/07/2019 16:02

I think a lot of people don't understand mental health of mental illness still

So let’s leave it to the professionals shall we and just focus on talking about the reality tv show.

butmaybe · 09/07/2019 16:04

@RonaldMcDonald

I agree. If she was, no one on this thread would know/ could diagnose.

ILoveYou3000 · 09/07/2019 16:12

Everyone is judging the behaviour on there as they would in the real world, but nothing about what's happening in the villa is real. It's intensified, so in reality yes after 4 weeks Amy's behaviour would be extreme, and concerning. 4 weeks of villa life equates to around 4 months on the outside (going on how previous islanders have said a week felt like a month in there as they're together 24/7).

That's why the vast majority of these relationships won't last. Only 2 of those who went the distance have and one of those was rocky to begin with. You can't go from full-on, intense and always being together to a normal, healthy relationship unless feelings are deep and genuine and even then it'll take a lot of work to get things on track in the outside world.

So, judging Amy on a normal 4 week relationship is actually really unfair. That's not to say she's handled things well, she hasn't, but for her it feels like something more than just 4 weeks.

MargoLovebutter · 09/07/2019 16:14

Sadly, the huge majority of us would fall down somewhere on full "mental health" under the criteria you gave there Bluntness.

However, that does not mean we have a diagnosed mental health issue, it may just mean we are a bit dysfunctional in certain aspects of our lives.

On programmes like LI, people are removed from the social and structural support of normal every day life and dumped in one place for weeks on end with a complete bunch of strangers and are part of a competition. That would be enough to expose areas of weakness in most people.

To a certain extent part of our entertainment is watching the character flaws and romantic mis-matches. If they were all securely attached individuals, with strong boundaries, good coping techniques and well developed senses of self-worth, it would probably make for really dull viewing.

Yamayo · 09/07/2019 16:15

I don't know if Amy is 'mentally ill' (whatever that means) but she is scarily intense and slightly unhinged.
After 3 weeks she's gushing that her nephews and nieces won't know a time when she wasn't with Curtis?
That she can't wait to leave the house and start her life with him?
Crying that she was going to marry him and have his babies?

Not exactly rational IMHO.

RonaldMcDonald · 09/07/2019 16:15

Agreed. I use diagnostic testing in work for all manner of issues. We have only seen what we are allowed to see of Amy. Even if she were demonstrating psychosis I doubt we’d be shown it, we are fed a story. Additionally no-one has spent dedicated time with her in a neutral environment to make a reasonable assessment. Stop making something dramatic out of something mundane.

FreshAprilStart · 09/07/2019 16:24

What would be refreshing is if Amy were to reflect on her approach and be mortified and talk about being swept up in the intense toxic atmosphere. She might reclaim this if she does that.

If she sticks to the 'he did me wrong, broke my heart and stole my future' then she's all Dizzy bonkers.

Bellendejour · 09/07/2019 16:26

I think Amy probably seemed fine, bright and breezy, smiley happy Amy. The issues she has are just her personality not mental health problems, yes, she has a worrying attachment style but I’m not sure how they could have wheedled that out of her without actually putting her in Love Island. She probably put on a very convincing positive version of herself and with the pageant background they might have thought she could handle eg being judged against the other girls (when actually she was really insecure and jealous). I was just thinking about when she came out of Casa Amor and snarled at Curtis ‘I was coming back here to tell you I love you’ - who would do that? Who wouldn’t just NOT ACTUALLY SAY IT, even if just to preserve themselves/some small sliver of pride? I do think Curtis led her a merry dance in the beginning but she also projected all hell out of it, and decided they were in this big, life changing marriage and babies, childhood sweethearts (???!!!) type relationship when he really hadn’t talked about that sort of thing and seemed off-ish when she asked about the future. Or did I miss eps when he did?

MynameisJune · 09/07/2019 16:27

Even after 4 months together planning marriage and kids would be too much for most people to handle especially at 23.

TatianaLarina · 09/07/2019 16:43

Amy isn’t mentally ill.

Absolutely nobody on here can say whether she is mentally ill one way or another.

No matter what diagnostic testing you use at work you’ve not used it on Amy.

Two of my best friends are psychiatrists and neither will proffer an opinion on anyone they have not personally assessed, particularly not people on TV.

None of us can tell if Amy has underlying issues with depression and anxiety. Nor whether she may end up with one or both as a result of her experiences on the show.

From what I have seen of her I’d say that she came across as insecure, vulnerable, with low self-confidence, and a very naive idea of relationships. Further than that I couldn’t really say.

I stopped watching the this season a while ago because I don’t believe it has learned anything from the recent suicides. I noticed Amy had left, so came on here to see what happened.

Mike didn’t seem depressed when he was on the show, and maybe he wasn’t at the time. I didn’t see the previous seasons so I can’t comment on Sophie.

Bluntness100 · 09/07/2019 16:47

I'm sorry, but she has known Curtis a month. And for the first and last week there was no real relationship. They were settling in or in the other villa then splitting up..,So it is two weeks.

And with that she's decided she will marry him, have his kids,that her nephews and nieces will grow up never knowing a time without him, that her future is with him and he's taken that away from her, that she has nothing now, when this is a man who told her he didn't wish to make her his girlfriend to wait and see how the relarionship planned out, and then crying for days on end when he ends it, and then having to be removed and receive counselling is not within thr realms of normal or healthy behaviour to me.

And no one will ever convince me it is normal or healthy. And nor has any contestant on any series behaved like this ever, and they are all in the same abnormal environment.

It's not normal.its not healthy.

TatianaLarina · 09/07/2019 16:48

Call it what you please, not in a good place

I agree. And, it transpires, shouldn’t have been on the show.

Hebdenbridge · 09/07/2019 16:50

Having watched bits of it again, whilst DD was catching up on the last 4 episodes, I think

  1. Curtis has done nothing wrong. When Amy went to Casa Amor, it gave him the space to realise he wasn't that in to her. All his chats to tell her so were very honest.

  2. Michael was actually clear to Amber, that it was over

  3. Anna is a dickhead

butmaybe · 09/07/2019 16:53

And no one will ever convince me it is normal or healthy.

No one is trying to! But you can't diagnose mental health problems from your armchair.

You are right that mentally ill shouldn't be a slur, but it also shouldn't be something that is casually diagnosed. (Unhinged is a slur).

I don’t believe it has learned anything from the recent suicides

Agreed - it's the public reactions it prompts that are very disturbing - this is the first series I've followed and its shocked me.

Sagradafamiliar · 09/07/2019 17:02

Naive is what I would call it. And totally manipulated and admittedly by the person who did it, 'lied to'.
Once again I feel like I've been watching a different programme as I've only seen her spoken highly of by others, said to 'bring a lot to the villa' and have seen no evidence of her struggling to get on with the girls whatsoever, in fact she tried to bring Lucie in with them (rightly or wrongly).

Wrongdissection · 09/07/2019 17:05

In a bid to reclaim the lightheartedness I’m going to attempt to give my opinion on the islanders in emojis.

Curtis ☕️ 🕺
Amber 💪🏻
Ovie 😎 🏀 🥇 🤤
Michael 🔔 🔚 🧠👂
Amy 🤦🏼‍♀️😭🤯😵 💃🏼
Anna 🗣👄👩‍⚕️🤦🏼‍♀️
Jordan 👍🏻
Anton 🍑 💧
Tommy 🔥 🏅 🥊
Molly Mae ⚡️ 🧸
George ◻️
Marvin ◻️
Maura 🌪 💥 🐍
Belle 🍬
Joanna 🤷🏼‍♀️

Sagradafamiliar · 09/07/2019 17:08

Amazing! 😂

TatianaLarina · 09/07/2019 17:08

I think there’s a toxic combination of manipulation of both the contestants and the viewers by the producers, and the hyperbolic social media response.

I watched some BB many moons ago. Once when I was pregnant I watched the live feed. That was really instructive in how reality TV functions. The difference between characters and events as they actually were and how they were portrayed by the producers was stark and quite chilling.

It taught me a lesson in reality TV that many viewers and potential contestants could do with tbh.

islandlove · 09/07/2019 17:09

I take it the MN villa trip is off then 🤣

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