Love Island Thread 6 - Maura’s nether report, wet with a chance of popsicles

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Fill up the other one first!

I'm going to go against the majority here I'm afraid...
Yes I agree Joe has shown jealousy about Lucie and Tommy. I can't blame him to be honest. I think he feels insecure and still can't believe that Lucie wanted to be with him. He is desperate not to mess anything up with her. I don't agree he has been purposely punishing her though. I think he was looking out for Lucie when he said maybe she should spend more time with the girls. He doesn't want her to feelnisolated from them

Equally I don't understand the hate towards Amy. Again, she seems to genuinely care that Lucie is upset and appears distant. I just done think she is a bitch. Yes she comes across needy of Curtis but again she is worried she is going to mess things up at some point...

I read in the Fail, sorry no link, that Lucie's mother said she is very happy despite what we see and is getting a lot of support from the LI team as is the family and that she wants to stay.

Are we watching the same program?

Within two days in the villa Joe had a sulky needy strop because Tommy dared to pick Lucie to go on a date , which she is not allowed to turn down. Nothing happened and on her return he told her ' the trust has gone.' (As if they'd been in a relationship for six months and she'd cheated on him.)

He knows the premise of the show. He's an arrogant little weirdo. I just hope Lucie doesn't decide to leave too because of the nosy bitch girls. Although, as she keeps crying maybe the Villa isn't a healthy environment for her anyway.

I’m behind with the watching and I haven’t seen any previous series, so I don’t know how it’s supposed to work.

I like Maura, she’s toned it down and it comes across much better. She’s probably more childish and insecure than she seemed at first. I don’t know if Lucie isn’t playing the long game and really going after Tommy. They seemed to have a good time together and maybe it was flirting rather than just fooling around (the food game). Tommy, dear God, what does anyone see in him? I’m warming up a lot to MM.

I also think joe is insecure and jealous due to the time lucie spends with tommy and I certainly don't agree he has punished her. We see threads on here all the time about people's partner's spending time with a friend of the opposite gender and people say don't permit it. And that's not even ones where there has been a physical attraction admitted.

I do think his behavuour has been controlling but I don't think it's as bad as some are trying to portray.

I do think amy is being abitch though.

I agree that Joe has been a bit weird & controlling but don’t seem him as an abuser.

I also don’t see Amy as a master manipulator & bully. Immature & childish & a bit bitchy yes.

@tessiegirl so do you think Joe was right to say that hopefully Lucie would wake up and 'change'? And that it was weird and disrespectful for her to have male friends?

I think whoever is running Joes Instagram knows we all want him out 😬😬

I also think that if I was in there & the boy I was with was whispering with a girl he was attracted too I probably would be a little peeved. Obvs I would be like Amber though & act like I don’t care!

Liked Elmas retort

So is it only one member of those two couples get voted off? I’d like Lucie and Anton to stay.

I’m trying to think back to when I was young and whether I had a “type”. People are so stuck on this, aren’t they? Maura is the only one who said she goes more for personality.

We see threads on here all the time about people's partner's spending time with a friend of the opposite gender and people say don't permit it. And that's not even ones where there has been a physical attraction admitted.

I defy you to point out a thread where 2 people who have been coupled up but not a couple (so for real world purposes let say they are dating but not serious), where one is friends with someone who has shown an interest in them, where posters say 'do not permit that friendship'

That's never happened.

Insecurity isnt an excuse to tell her to change. And someone else kiking her is no reason to tell her the 'trust has gone'

Telling someone the trust has gone when they havent done anything wrong is attempting to modify their behaviour so they behave how you want, in an attempt to earn the trust back.

Joe has said and done things that are very controlling however I do believe the issue is with Tommy as on Unseen Bits Michael pulled Lucie on his lap and flirted with her as a joke in front of Joe and he found it hilarious

BenWillbondsPants I might be wrong but I think Joe is conscious of the fact that in order to win you have to be popular outside & inside the house. his wording is wrong though

Joe has said and done things that are very controlling

I disagree, and I am bemused where all these threads on here with women saying " my partner is hanging out with a girl he fancies, she sits on his lap, whispers in his ear, and they do it in front of me" people are all tell him to stop immediately or it's over.

Yet joe goes a bit more gently and he's a controlling weirdo.

I'm not saying he's not been a bit controlling. But as said I think it's due to context which is making him insecure and jealous.

I just read an article on the Sun website that I thought was amusing.

Basically, it was saying that the Maura we see on LI is actually quite close to the real Maura (although slightly exaggerated):-

Longford Love Island star Maura Higgins’ foul language on show not surprising to friends back home

FLIRTY Maura Higgins' foul language on Love Island has not surprised the people who know her.

The Co Longford babe came under fire from some TV fans who insist her sexual innuendos were too much — but pals insist that's exactly who the model is.

Salon boss Catriona Egan told the Irish Sun: "If you knew Maura, you wouldn't be shocked by this, neither will anyone around here because everyone in Longford knows how direct Maura is, when she wants something there is no beating around the bush. She is extremely driven."

The boss of the popular hairdressers described the model as "an excellent employee" who was popular with customers and fellow staff.

Catriona said: "People always liked that Maura was very upfront, there was no talking behind your back, Maura would say exactly what she was thinking to your face."

I loved Maura saying something like “It felt smug going in the villa with hunky Tom. It felt grand.” Sweet.

The person who said about someone from "up north" going in .... apparently he's been there a week waiting to go in & he's veeeery rich

I thought Joe’s most telling comment was when he said “I know I can’t change you - I know I’m not supposed to”. He acknowledged out loud that he wants her to change but he knows that sounds bad. In contrast, when Maura was talking about being put off by Anton’s grooming, she said she would never ask him to change because that’s no basis for a relationship. So she ruled Anton out, rather than trying to turn him into what she would want. I don’t know whether Joe’s behaviour is emotionally abusive or just massively immature but he crossed a line he can’t come back from. I hope he learns something and doesn’t get too badly vilified, but he is definitely wrong in his approach to this relationship at least.

Mauras a hair dresser?

I don't think Joe did say Lucie 'couldn't have' Male friends though did he? He said he felt weird about how much time she was spending with Tommy in particular (especially because about 4 days ago Tommy was telling her he'd 'crawl to the moon and back for her' blah blah). I really think It's Tommy that he's insecure about, not all men that she speaks to ever.
And I think his point about her maybe making more effort with the girls was because he can see there is a divide opening up for whatever reason and it's making it uncomfortable for them all. (It's like if you are on a night out with a group of people and one is sitting stone faced in the corner whilst the rest of you have a good time-you would first ask what was wrong, Then Try to involve the person-and then if you got nothing at all back it would probably start to become a bit irritating-what we are seeing in there is that x 100 because they can't all just go home when they want).

I can see his point tbh, he's just really not great at articulating it.

The woman from woman's aid was on the radio this morning and jumped on the fact that he said 'don't cry and ruin your makeup' as if that was some indicative symbol of Joes' fully paid up membership of the patriarchy-I don't think it was that at all-I think it was because he was aware she doesn't often wear a lot of makeup and had spent ages getting ready and it was just a lighthearted way to try to get her to stop crying.
I've said it myself 'oh I don't want to ruin my mascara' when I've been trying not to cry.

Yes he hasn't always said the right thing in the right way but a Sun headline accusing him of abuse is a bit much.

We only see two per cent of what's said in there-and lots of the other boys (and girls though you may doubt their motives) have said Lucy's behaviour with Tommy is a bit off-they are all seeing the same thing-and maybe more of it than we are. 🤷🏽‍♀️

my partner is hanging out with a girl he fancies, she sits on his lap, whispers in his ear, and they do it in front of me" people are all tell him to stop immediately or it's over.

Except Joe isnt her partner. He has been her boyfriend for a couple of days.

The advice there would be to discuss it with the person, but do not tell them who they can and can not be friends with.

The advice would not be 'tell them you dont like it and wont accept it, tell them you hope they wake up and change and that they need to make more effort with the same sex'

Which is basically 'make them feel like shit then tell them you are only saying this for their own good. Make sure they know they would be happier if they just do as you tell them'

Most people would say 'if you dont like how they are after being together for 3 days. Finish it.'

Most people would say 'if you dont like how they are after being together for 3 days. Finish it. But this is a competition not real life.

I find it quite concerning that people are defending Joe. They're not 'partners' or even boyfriend and girlfriend. Not that that would make it any better if they were, but these people known each other for two weeks.

Who do you think is going tonight?

I think Joe and Elma.

Mauras a hair dresser?

She used to be. In the article they say that she left in 2014