The Virtues

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My heart is breaking already

I think this is going to be brilliant- I love Stephen Graham.

It was good but it didn't really get me like people are saying on here

Me too, colouring. I've been sobbing for the past twenty minutes.

That actually made 'Thia is England' easy to watch (apart from harrowing rape scene) i was so tense! I wanted Dinah and Joe tp find something in each other, support, love, I guess life isn't like that where the feck was Dinahs husband!?
I almost felt sorry damon when he revealed his years of abuse. So glad Joe didn't kill him. Amaxing drama. Tough viewing though

And I haven't read up there ^, although it's been like Joseph with that drink in the pub...

Oh I thought This is England was tougher and far more affecting

Oh Dinah

Dinah, you poor love

I thought that was amazing, but obviously harrowing. It will stay with me a long long time. And the acting was note perfect, all of it. A stunning piece of work.

Oh that got me. I knew what was coming as far as joe’s history because I read the interview upthread but the rest was just, wow. That was really powerful. How Shane Meadows brought himself to not only share such a painful history but to share it in that absolutely amazing way. Amazing doesn’t seem like a big enough word for what I just watched and felt. I don’t think I’ve cried and felt as much while watching tv before. I’m really not a sobbing sort but this got me. The pain of all those people was right there within touching distance.

That was harrowing, and brilliant. The man at the top of the stairs at the end... - was that a flashback or was it Craigy? Will also stay with me for a long time.

It's taken me years to get over watching 'the' scene in This is England and now it'll be the same with this. Unbelieving acting, truly incredible.

The mother was definitely dead.

What made it worse was the fact this was based on truth, after reading that article up thread last night it made tonight's episode even better/worse.

We've had a hanging in our family recently, I'm finding it really hard to watch anything on TV about it, there really seems to be such a lot at the moment,more than ever before or I'm just noticing it more. Poor Craigey.

loaf we did last year. It's tough. Take care.

Thanks,and you x

So powerful and harrowing. More shane meadows and less downton abbey please tv makers. I love the accents, the dialogue, the houses, the humour and the bringing to life of all the damage and love that we go through.

Last episode was gripping and harrowing all
The actors were amazing , was feeling to cry after last night episode.

I however wasn't sure on some things like The situation with the social worker, when Dinah son was old enough to send his mum his art, why was the social worker going through Dinah mother not Dinah directly as by then she would of been 18 plus right?

And where did the husband disappear too? He left his phone in the van but when his wife turned up at the building site he wasn't there, and van gone so he would of had his phone with him ?

fakeflowers agree on the social worker bit that was very unrealistic and if I a child has been legally adopted it would be very unusual there would be any contact while the child was still do young.
Re the husband I guess he was just busy sorting out supplies and never switched phone back on.

I thought this episode was gripping. Very uncomfortable in parts to watch. I loved the realisation with joe that he had a life and was able to live it and how pathetic his rapist was. It also shows how complicated abuse is and how the abused can often become the abuser.
Was so sad for craigy I too know the experience of a family member dying by hanging it is devastating and I think him blaming himself for Joe's rape was so sad he was only a child too and a victim himself.
Poor dinah her mother was toxic but so annoying she has messed her own future by killing her. Glad she had a decent brother and sis in law

Dulra that explains re the husband. I forgot he took his phone off.

The whole situation with the social worker was unrealistic but maybe it's a bit different in Ireland ? Or it was poetic license?

I was thinking about Damon having been a victim himself , this is unfortunately a very common thing with abused people go on to abuse too

The whole thing was so sad and brilliantly played , the touches of humour, the characters, just great 👍🏽

I think the social worker didn’t have any contact details for Dinah at that point. She was 15 when she had the baby but had moved out and by the sounds of things not living a stable life/drugs etc, by the time the social worker got in touch. The last address and number recorded on her file will have been her mums. Her mum was very clearly obstructive so it’s easy to imagine she refused to give up to date contact details for Dinah and just pretended she was in regular contact with her. Maybe even said she still lived with her so any letters and calls would still come to the mothers house.

I seriously hope that isn't something that can't happen in real life and social workers can't discuss things with relations of birth mothers!

You would like to think it wouldn’t.

Mind you ,you'd like to think in this day abortion would be legal everywhere but it's not.

Yep

As someone else posted earlier on I wasn't able to reallly get involved because the sound levels were just terrible.

Even with my volume control at twice the level I normally have some of the dialogue was just not clear. But then a different character would appear and have been recording at normal levels to they were "shouting". I was spending half my time focusing on my volume control.

It really spoilt it for me. And I dont think I was ever really engaged with it as a result.

I have to have subtitles on the tv permanently now. Not sure if maybe hearing is going or tv sound quality is getting worse.

I keep subtitles on too, my H hates subtitles he just turns the sound up to the max, I can't stand it. TV has become a bit of a battlefield.

I think it is the mix, music is always really loud on my TV but speech is a bit garbled, especially soft, whispery ones in drama. My DD reckons that TV volume control is bad as it is expected you will have a sound bar these days as an addition to the TV so the TV company doesn't invest in great sound as a feature.