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Dr Who, was that a load of cack or what?

152 replies

Chirpygirl · 30/06/2007 19:56

That wasn't worth bribing DH to go up and see to DD for.
Am thoroughly disappointed in Russell t Davies!

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Idobelieveinfairies · 02/07/2007 22:24

Yes and at Christmas its just the christmas one-off special, a long wait indeed.

lemonaid · 02/07/2007 22:25

The Sarah Jane Adventures is airing in the autumn. But probably features fewer lust-objects unless you have a thing for Elisabeth Sladen...

TheDuchessOfNorks · 02/07/2007 22:38

I liked John Simm being flip with the US President but by part 3 was a bit bored with the madman approach.

Didn't think much of the story line.

Only read halfway up thread, so may be repeating, but if Capt Jack is the Face of Boe, then is the FoB actually dead or did he wake up again after the Dr & Martha had left. Sometimes Jack is dead for quite a while.

And did the Master swap bodies with his missus? Is that why he didn't regenerate and why she picked his ring (snigger) out of the ashes at the end.

UnquietDad · 02/07/2007 22:44

lemonaid - I do, actually

I wonder if Martha will turn the air blue in Torchwood?

lemonaid · 02/07/2007 22:51

Personally it will take a lot for me to fogive ES for being 58 and still looking that good...

Ulysees · 02/07/2007 23:14

Is ES Sarah Jane? Yes she does look good if it is. My sister is 53 and looks my age (39)

UnquietDad · 02/07/2007 23:15

I don't want to rub it in, but the lovely Lis is actually 59!

Ulysees · 02/07/2007 23:17

Botox?

UnquietDad · 02/07/2007 23:18

You mean "Botox " !!

AttilaTheMum · 02/07/2007 23:22

or "The face of Botox"....

Ulysees · 02/07/2007 23:23

no I was joking, of course she wouldn't, oh the thought!

lmao at face of botox

UnquietDad · 02/07/2007 23:24

Or maybe she just has a portrait in the attic!

She looks better now than she did in 1983!! Eeek!

Ulysees · 02/07/2007 23:27

enuf said

lemonaid · 02/07/2007 23:29

But she was 58 when she filmed the stuff in which I've most recently seen her. When I watch the next series, in which she's probably 59, I can get aerated about that.

nooka · 02/07/2007 23:30

We were really disappointed with that episode. I don't think much of Martha - she doesn't seem to have grown much as a charachter, and the running around a dying Earth whilst looking spotless just didn't work. Also she just hasn't got much charisma, so I don't see her spreading the word that effectively. Jack would have been much better at it (and his not dying thing would have come in handy!). Thought he was woefully underused - he was full on anxt about not dying at the end of Torchwood/when he came back to Dr Who, but at the end of that he was just cleaned up and dandy - oh so I can't die, but never mind...

As for the believe in the Dr crap - that's just so NOT Dr Who, yuk yuk. Very poor.

And why is Martha coming back? RTD says that she was really popular, but I was really glad to see the back of her.

Master pyre thing was pants too - very Star Wars...

Pixel · 03/07/2007 00:08

I've just watched it again and it wasn't quite as dire the second time. I'd sort of got prepared for the cringiness of the little caged Doctor and the Glowy/floaty Doctor and managed to let it wash over me.

I had to watch the beginning of this bit several times because John Simm just looked soooo sexy .

Mossy · 03/07/2007 08:05

Was it a load of cack?

I don't think so, but nor did I think it was as good as the last two season finales.

Dobby Doctor the house elf... what was that about? And Doctor / Messiah? Hmm.

And what is the point in Martha's brother? I thought he might be involved in this episode somehow as he escaped... but no, and no mention!

I actually liked Jack as Face of Boe though. I wonder if they'll weave how that happened into a future episode of Doctor Who, or Torchwood, though?

Martha I thought was pretty good actually, apart from the "and I love him," bits.

Btw UnquietDad I knew the RTD / Winslet connection... I remember Dark Season from when I was a kid! Wasn't allowed to watch it like, obviously the work of the devil, but managed quite a few episodes nontheless!

stepfordwife · 03/07/2007 20:05

er, i find face of boe rather attractive
is that just wrong?

TheDuchessOfNorks · 03/07/2007 22:35

'tis very wrong. Shame upon you and your pickled face fetish.

allmytimeonmumsnet · 04/07/2007 12:01

It was all a bit peter pan wasn't it. I saw the master as the little boy who never grew up which was why he seemed mad - he was still living life from a child's point of view. Then there was the thinking about the doctor stuff which was very much "I belive in Fairies" when Tinkerbell is dying.

did they ever explain the drums other than the effect of the vortex?

I loved the face of bo thing. Think it was great the way it was done as a throw away comment too. Maybe only his face survives because he loves his face so much and uses so many preserving toiletries on it!

I'm glad people have mentioned the wife and the ring as I was a bit disappointed that the master seemed to have been dismissed like that. Just being allowed to lie down and die seemed a bit of a cop out for a time lord when you think what the doctor has been through. Like the idea of him coming back at some point. I actually thought perhaps the doctor would regenerate into the masters body or something (vain hope of hanging onto JoHn Simms I suppose).

stepfordwife · 04/07/2007 13:08

that's what i thought duchessofnorks

slayerette · 04/07/2007 13:10

Ooh I thought about the Tinkerbell thing too! It ruined it for me a bit, actually.

Pixel · 04/07/2007 13:14

I did think they could have tried harder to save The Master than just shouting "regenerate" at him! After all, if a human had one measly bullet-wound you'd make the effort wouldn't you? (assuming it wasn't right between the eyes. Not a drop of blood either, amazing.

UnquietDad · 04/07/2007 14:21

It's Different For Timelords.

Mind you, I remember Roger Delgado's master making the point that, although he could regenerate, a bullet from the Brigadier's gun would kill him as easily as it would a human.

Pixel · 05/07/2007 00:33

Yes, but a bullet wouldn't necessarily kill a human 'easily', not if they got proper medical help. If someone gets shot we don't stand around saying "oh a bullet, how unfortunate. Guess that's that then", we call an ambulance.
Would've spoilt the drama though I s'pose .