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thannyflaps · 03/01/2019 22:00

Just watching the latest episode - how on earth do they afford to run that household? iPhones for the kids, holidays to Spain for 20 people, a new kitchen.

There is no way a bakery would generate that much money. Would channel 4 really pay that well for their participation in the programme?

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Aeroflotgirl · 06/01/2019 21:01

They can't have it both ways, if you don't want negative publicity, stop courting the media, keep quiet, and stop making programmes. People are going to have an opinion on this supersize family, and not all of it will be positive, that is the price you pay. I totally forgot about them until they were in the media spotlight again as Sue was pregnant yet again, on Facebook, News coverage, daytime TV programmes.

Aeroflotgirl · 06/01/2019 21:21

With each pregnancy, there is an announcement from them in the media, and a new wave of publicity including the programme which follows the birth.

70sbaubles · 06/01/2019 21:28

I genuinely like them. I like him. Hes hardworking, calm, provides. Hes not some deadbeat who fucked off, he takes responsibility for all of them. I can't identify with Sue in terms of how she views motherhood, prams, babies etc. The bits she loves are the bits I hate. Couldn't cope like that but fair play she looks bloody fantastic. I'm on my knees already. They clearly all love each other, the kids are loved, the house is nice. Leave them alone.

KylieJennersTopLip · 06/01/2019 21:48

If they wanted to be left alone they would stop pushing themselves onto the general public with the TV shows and social media..

TheFairyCaravan · 06/01/2019 21:52

Leave them alone

They don't want to be left alone otherwise they'd be living the quiet life with him in the bakery, Sue being a SAHM and the kids just being kids. Instead they are courting the media and taking freebies for having their and their kids' lives all over national TV. They can't expect people not to have an opinion and they can't expect every opinion to be positive.

potatoscone · 06/01/2019 22:13

Hes not some deadbeat who fucked off,

Nah, he stayed around after grooming her and getting her pregnant at 13; and has kept her pregnant ever since. What a guy!

A deadbeat who fucked off might have been better in the long run for Sue.

FrancisCrawford · 06/01/2019 22:22

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Sarahandduck18 · 06/01/2019 22:54

Their lifestyle now depends on the media money.

They weren’t going on annual holidays or getting new kitchens before.

I do think these threads have turned nastier over the years.

Yes they aren’t the perfect MC parents whose lives revolve around music lessons, ballet and reading the classics but they do better than a lot of other families out there.

70sbaubles · 07/01/2019 06:21

So how would you measure Sue's life as better? 2 kids, career? Smaller house?
Its not up to you.

SaturdayNext · 07/01/2019 08:54

Yes they aren’t the perfect MC parents whose lives revolve around music lessons, ballet and reading the classics but they do better than a lot of other families out there.

No-one says they or anyone else are imperfect because they don't go down that route. But there is definitely a middle course where the size of the family is limited to one where each of the children has a reasonable chance of getting parental attention, and where the girls aren't automatically expected to parent their siblings.

AlaskanOilBaron · 07/01/2019 09:06

Yes they aren’t the perfect MC parents whose lives revolve around music lessons, ballet and reading the classics but they do better than a lot of other families out there.

You've really missed the point here. One of the many (hundreds?) of factors that rational adults should weigh in their family planning are things like, 'Can I afford extracurriculars? What if they want to do ballet?' and, 'Will I have time to read to/with them?' and 'Can I reasonably cook a nice dinner for so many, or will I have to feed them crap?' and 'Can I look after them responsibly, or might I have to consider locking them in their rooms?' and so on.

Cramming as many children as your body can produce into a family having constrained time and resources, where ballet and reading is not even a possibility is bad parenting.

derxa · 07/01/2019 09:31

I was sad enough to watch the 'House Tour on youtube I was expecting to see some sort of hell hole. It wasn't. I'm in the leave them alone camp.

mydogisthebest · 07/01/2019 09:45

I wish the media would leave them alone. I am sick of reading about their supposedly perfect family. Oh they don't claim benefits (ha ha) and he works so hard in the magic bakery.

They should not be in newspapers or on tv. They have done nothing of merit. Having 21 children is not something to be proud of.

Singlenotsingle · 07/01/2019 10:05

They don't want to be left alone though. They want the publicity. They'd get paid by the TV company, paid to go on holiday, paid for any products that they can advertise. It all helps to feed all those mouths.

Aeroflotgirl · 07/01/2019 10:16

No they don't want to be left alone at all, I guess in their naeivity, they think that the public will love their family, and think what amazing parents they are for bringing all those children up, there are; but again there are people like myself, who think that they are highly irresponsible and selfish. Noel just makes me feel so uneasy, he seems to be controlling from what I see in the programme, what he says, goes.

potatoscone · 07/01/2019 10:21

Its not up to you

No you are right, it's not. I don't know why you think my observations would make me fell I was in charge of their lives?

Calvinsmam · 07/01/2019 10:24

I worry about her health.
Being pregnant that much must have put awful strain on her body.

I think she genuinely has an addiction to being pregnant.

comebacksoonsusan · 07/01/2019 10:26

I would think that a fair few of those children will grow up resentful at being one of so many; not loved for your individuality, but for the baby you briefly were before bang! you're on the conveyor belt with the other 20 odd children.

TheFairyCaravan · 07/01/2019 10:27

I looked through the visitor posts on their Fb page earlier this morning (don't judge, I've been ill for a week and I'm a bit bored), under one 'ignore the haterz hun it's not news that you were a teen mum'. Sue, I presume, has written that once you are a teen mum that stigma never goes away, anyone would think they'd committed murder, they won't be doing any more vlogs and they've told the TV company the same.

They have spectacularly missed the point. Some people are very shocked that an 18yo got a 13yo pregnant but have been promoted as some sort of inspirational and admiral people. A lot of others of us have felt like that for years. They were very naive if they thought it was always going to go unnoticed.

evaperonspoodle · 07/01/2019 10:28

I guess in their naeivity, they think that the public will love their family, and think what amazing parents they are for bringing all those children up

I think this is possibly the crux of the matter. I do think they (especially Sue though) are naive and do think everyone should see what a lovely big family they are, how much love and attention each child gets individually and how much the children all love having more siblings, as she has repeatedly said this. Noel seems to take a much more 'it's our life, we're happy' attitude but Sue seems to get very annoyed and take it all very personally if there is criticism. Sue also seems very unwilling to listen to what the children are saying wrt their family. In this program the children seemed to be reading from a script but in previous ones they have voiced their concerns/dissatisfaction about Sue having more and then in the next scene Sue will say "they just loooooove having more babies!'

louise5754 · 07/01/2019 10:40

I think her doctors / midwife should have referred her to a counsellor / physiatrist after 8/9.

How can they have just let it carry on. I know she has a right to have as many babies as she wants and she can't be forced to take help but I wonder if anyone did try to intervene.

evaperonspoodle · 07/01/2019 10:42

Just had a look too at the comments Hmm Sue is missing the point entirely; no one thinks she committed murder because she got pregnant at 13, it's more people are horrified/miffed/whatever that Noel was 17/18 at the time. Apparently they are never doing media again. I have seen her writing this at least twice on the comments after previous programs so I wouldn't count on it.

AlaskanOilBaron · 07/01/2019 10:46

Sue also seems very unwilling to listen to what the children are saying wrt their family. In this program the children seemed to be reading from a script but in previous ones they have voiced their concerns/dissatisfaction about Sue having more and then in the next scene Sue will say "they just loooooove having more babies!'

What complete mind fuckery.

Ask them their opinion on the shitstorm around them, and then re-state so it matches yours.

Poor kids.

TheEfficientBaxter · 07/01/2019 10:52

Well said, Beaverhausen. I've been following this thread with increasing disbelief at some of the vile comments that people seem to think they are entitled to make.

It's interesting to see how the tone has subtly changed since the MNHQ post!

KylieJennersTopLip · 07/01/2019 11:03

Christ alive, those comments! They really don't understand the issues do they.. it just goes to show how blind they are to what they've done and continue to do Sad

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