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School - BBC 2 - 9 pm

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HollowTalk · 06/11/2018 21:14

Anyone watching?

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PurpleDaisies · 14/11/2018 10:44

And what was really interesting was how ineffective and crap the CEO was as a leader.

I worked for a different MAT and I can say that unfortunately that’s very common.

Gileswithachainsaw · 14/11/2018 10:51

I think the thing I was horrified abiut the most was the fact that seconds after he was told he could come back henry was asking about jumpers. How they could allow him to come back straight into exams . Exams those poor buggers had already had to overcome all that shit every day to work and stuff for, and potentionally have it disrupted by a kid the school know has form.

It was a huge risk. And one that so easily could have gone wrong and ruined every thing for the few well behaved kids they have .

Total slap in the tbh

Gileswithachainsaw · 14/11/2018 10:51

Slap in the face

Castle999 · 14/11/2018 10:58

Yes. The Academy system has been very bad.

I found the lower year groups the worst time as extremely high ability well behaved kids are put in classes with kids who are low ability and often misbehaving. What chance do the teachers have? By year 10 it gets a bit better and all my children found it a massive relief to get into sixth form.

If this is happening in our local schools it is probably happening everywhere.

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Gileswithachainsaw · 14/11/2018 11:23

I have to also say I was extremely confused about their gcse results

They were proudly showing off the 75 percent result.

However the parents forum seemed to highlight top set maths as being useless. Simple sums theynwould have known from infants

Doesn't add up really

Castle999 · 14/11/2018 11:32

There are some bright hard working kids in the middle of the chaos too.

Also historically it was a good school so it stands to reason that a section of the kids in the higher year groups will pass.

Castle999 · 14/11/2018 11:34

I understand that maths is being taught by the PE teacher atm. But that might have changed.

staydazzling · 14/11/2018 11:52

oh thankyou Miscible i was begining to feel alone in that opinion lol,

MissEliza · 14/11/2018 11:55

Iheart I really don't know what the solution is for boys like Henry.. Ds1 had a very similar friend who had a managed move to this new specialist school that was really talked up. It was a disaster as it seems the boys there were just winding each other up, the police were constantly called and the school was closed down. The friend spent year 11 at home and was tutored at home. I'm not sure what qualifications he got. Meanwhile my friend battled against her ds going to the same school. He stayed in mainstream and got enough GCSEs to go to college. My fear is if these children are excluded or moved out of the mainstream, they will be isolated and written off.

staydazzling · 14/11/2018 11:58

yes that single mother comment even made DH ears prick up, to say wtf!!! hes usually oblivious.

staydazzling · 14/11/2018 12:07

I think its worth remembering Henry has ADHD and refused to take meds, what his petite mum was really supposed to do ive no idea, too many SEN schools are shutting down though so whrre do these kids go?

Castle999 · 14/11/2018 12:20

I felt sorry for Henry and his Mum. Then again you have to feel sorry for the other kids trying to learn. The poor teachers look exhausted.

The answer is of course to bring back all the support systems and staff. I know that these help as the withdrawal of such support systems are impacting the behaviour at Castle School too.

That means people have to vote for policies and MP's that support extra resources for schools. We will all pay later anyway (benefits / prison / mental health crisis) so it is much better to provide the support when these kids are young.

Gileswithachainsaw · 14/11/2018 13:08

stay

He was 15 not 5.

He had adhd he wasnt stupid.at that point I don't think it was fair to all the other kids to have someone disrupt their education for someone who deliberately wore stuff he shouldn't. And who refused to try and help himself.

staydazzling · 14/11/2018 13:55

I'm not denying his poor behaviour its more I don't think people should be kicking the mum.

Miscible · 14/11/2018 14:03

How does what pupil wears disrupt anyone's education? As for refusing to help himself, the update at the end indicated that Henry had stayed out of trouble.

What horrified me slightly was the way the head kept extending his exclusion, which is illegal. A fixed term exclusions must, unsurprisingly, be for a fixed term.

Gileswithachainsaw · 14/11/2018 14:03

She didn't do herself any favours though. I mean she didn't really appear to hold him.accountable for his behaviour.

She seemed am absolute sweet heart however she was still blaming the school, who sounded as if they'd let him get away with murder already.

PurpleDaisies · 14/11/2018 14:05

How does what pupil wears disrupt anyone's education?

In isolation, it doesn’t but if you’re prepared not to challenge sons school rules, pupils think they don’t have to meet any of them.

It would be better to have a non uniform policy than a uniform that isn’t enforced.

Miscible · 14/11/2018 14:06

Completely agree about the merits of having a non-uniform policy. It would save so much time that, in schools like this one, would be much better spent elsewhere.

Gileswithachainsaw · 14/11/2018 14:07

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Which kind of indicated that he could have if he had wanted to surely?
The fact is up til that point he was being allowed to get away witg it.

Personally I.hate uniform and don't give a shit what people wear. The pint or he was deliberately doing it to be disruptive. All he had to do was hand it over.

It didn't say he had stayed out of trouble. It said he sat his exams and had no further exclusions. That doesn't mean he stayed out of trouble.

And of it did then perhaps if they had done that a year ago his test phase wouldn't have been exams he could have ruined for everyone else

Gileswithachainsaw · 14/11/2018 14:08

I think the uniform was the least of the problems anyway. That could have been overlooked.

Bit calling teachers the C word and being derogatory about where they came from... well...

Miscible · 14/11/2018 14:16

Giles, it may well indicate that he has matured a bit, or is getting better support, including support from his mother.

Gileswithachainsaw · 14/11/2018 14:23

Maybe.

My overall impression was that generally the expectations of the kids were far too low.

He wasn't stupid. Not at all. And he was acting exactly how I would expect half those kids in that place to act if they didn't have the self motivation to behave themselves.

He wasnt being asked to conform into some impossible NT box which of course would have been really unfair .

I think the school put their want to not exclude a person over every kid (including him) .

We don't really know how it worked out. I hope those exams were undisturbed and so were the revision classes. I really do. But they failed miserably in having any expectations of capabilities 're behaviour. Lolly pops ffs... yeah maybe sone of the kids didn't bother showing up because they were better off at home learning online who knows .

Gileswithachainsaw · 14/11/2018 14:29

I think if all it took was an exclusion and a few days at home that could have been achieved years ago.

NotAnotherJaffaCake · 14/11/2018 14:56

The other thing I took home was how young a lot of the teachers in SLT looked. The man bought in to sort out attendance couldn't have been more than 30. I don't see how he could have had the experience for those kinds of senior roles. Ditto for the HT, to some extent.