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IAmBeyonceAlways · 28/10/2018 21:10

Anyone watching? Cant see another thread!

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friskybivalves · 21/11/2018 23:15

I remember in the book that when she crossed the border, the guard stamped her thigh with the visa rather than the passport and gave her one hell of a shock. Or have I made that up...? Quite surprised they didn't use that as it was such a good detail.

LadyPeterWimsey · 22/11/2018 08:06

friskybivalves you're absolutely right - it's a nice lighter moment. There have been some good humorous touches in this series, so that would have fitted right in.

ginghamstarfish · 22/11/2018 10:43

I'm really enjoying this, and haven't read the book. I like the period detail but agree the clothes etc seem like mid seventies perhaps? Florence Pugh is great, have seen her in a few things recently, but not getting the love for Gadi who looks a bit weaselly to me!

Inkanta · 22/11/2018 14:48

" but not getting the love for Gadi who looks a bit weaselly to me!"

Yes completely agree!

BagelGoesWalking · 22/11/2018 16:17

I'm relieved someone else thinks the same about Alexander Skarsgard! I just don't see it, his eyes are very deep set and, particularly in this role, he doesn't seem attractive at all to me.

AngelinaNeurosurgeon · 22/11/2018 17:54

This may have already been said but I see this series as a cerebral The Professionals - same era, same dodgy fashions and colour palettes, same dodgy hairstyles

BeanBagLady · 22/11/2018 22:28

“" but not getting the love for Gadi who looks a bit weaselly to me!"

Yes completely agree!”

And me.

Good actor though.

NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 23/11/2018 07:15

He is an actor who can look dashingly handsome in some films (Melancholia particularly) but not in others (his haircut in this is horrible - and yes definitely channelling Lewis Collins' The Professionals look). I recently watched him in a Netflix film (Hold the Dark) and didn't clock it was him until close to the end. Surely that's the mark of a good actor who really gets into his roles? Agree he has deepset eyes (and a bit close together) but still I find him very handsome. We're none of us perfect and he's definitely my type :-)

Perhaps some of hi

friskybivalves · 25/11/2018 21:10

Ewww Gadi's tâche more prominent this week.

BeanBagLady · 25/11/2018 22:04

So what was going on with the brief case switch? They swapped her briefcase for a.....bomb free briefcase?

And what went on between Kultz and man with hens?

And was Gadi on the phone to Helga?

Utterly confused.

Xiaoxiong · 25/11/2018 22:10

They swapped her briefcase for a.....bomb free briefcase because it gives Charlie an excuse to re-approach the professor later with the bomb "oh I picked up the professor's briefcase earlier by accident, I need to return her very important notes for the talk, please give this briefcase back to her..."

And what went on between Kultz and man with hens? That was the British MI5 head - he sees straight through what the Israelis are doing, that they're using Charlie as bait to catch Khalil. Also a reminder to everyone that the British created the Israeli/Palestinian problem.

And was Gadi on the phone to Helga? No, that was someone telling Helga to send Charlie out to meet Khalil and pick the bomb up.

ElenadeClermont · 25/11/2018 22:15

I thought the brief case switch was an excuse, so that Charlie can turn up unexpectedly and return the original briefcase with a bomb.

Obviously MI6 had to work out what is going on, it is a John Le Carre novel after all. It was a courtesy visit from Kurtz warning the Brits about the attack and asking them not to intervene.

I thought Helga was speaking to her handler.

At least I recognised Khalil straight away.

ElenadeClermont · 25/11/2018 22:16

Sorry x-post.

PrincessScarlett · 25/11/2018 23:29

It's all hitting up for next week's finale!

Gadi was right when he told Charlie she would be seduced by the Palestinians. I felt the audience were seduced by it as well showing all the children, the soldiers being friendly and Fatmeh being a doctor. It will be interesting to see how Charlie operates next.

Yes to tonight highlighting that Britain was to blame for the Israeli/Palestine conflict. The MI6 man came across very cold in comparison to the scenes we saw with Charlie and the Palestinians. The Israelis also come across hard and unfeeling.

What was the dream Gadi was having? Was it showing he has doubts over the Israeli cause?

BeanBagLady · 25/11/2018 23:51

Ah, thank you all!

Gazelda · 26/11/2018 00:09

Why did Khalil have the bracelet?

BeanBagLady · 26/11/2018 04:56

Was it the bracelet he had? Or more like the necklace that the bomber in tne first episode had?

ElenadeClermont · 26/11/2018 07:05

PrincessScarlett I thought the dream sequence showed Gadi sought peace.

The British spy chief saying I have never seen such a bad massacre. In 1947. Right after WW2.

NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 26/11/2018 08:08

Spoiler alert - I read somewhere last week that the ending isn't the same as it is in the novel...

Yesterday's episode was a tough watch but really rolled the plot along - things are starting to make much more sense now.

Melamin · 26/11/2018 08:17

I am going to have to watch that episode again. I thought I was on a roll after last week, but there is so much in there that I didn't quite get.

ElenadeClermont · 26/11/2018 09:04

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ElenadeClermont · 26/11/2018 09:06

Sorry, wrong thread. I have reported myself.

LadyPeterWimsey · 26/11/2018 09:22

Khalil's Palestinian group took the bracelet from Charlie when she arrived in Lebanon, and have passed it on to him. I imagine he is giving it back to Charlie to stiffen her resolve to fight for Michel/Salim, or as a token of acceptance from him as the mastermind of the terrorist group.

I really like the ending of the book, and I am very afraid they have changed it for the worse. In general though, I approve of the most of the decisions the screenwriter has made so I am taking an attitude of cautious optimism this week.

One thing I think they have preserved well is that neither side has a monopoly on heroism or brutality. Charlie is meant to fall in love with the warmth of the Palestinian people, and I agree, PrincessScarlet, they showed how that could happen. Gadi's own ambivalence about what he is doing gives the audience permission to have a divided heart on the whole issue. It's one of things that Le Carre really did well, especially in his earlier books, showing what it might be like to work towards defeating your country's enemies whilst still seeing them as human beings, and his bad guys are the ones who are unable to do that.

whatevermaycome · 26/11/2018 12:02

Why didn't Charlie recognise Khalil from the training camp ?

NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 26/11/2018 12:48

He had a hat on when he collected her in the van? She was sitting in the back (not on the same level) and he was driving , so she wouldn't necessarily have got a good look at him beforehand? Also, she was clearly very 'pumped' and tense at the pick-up point (near the church in the middle of nowhere), so may not have focused on him but rather on just following instructions and just getting on with what was required of her?

I'm wondering whether they're going to send Gadi and Charlie off into the sunset together (and no, although I did read that they've changed the end, I don't have a clue how). I do think that Gadi's interest in her is beyond the professional.