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FanciedAChangeToday · 30/09/2018 21:08

Cant see another thread - anyone watching?

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KellyMarieTunstall2 · 15/10/2018 14:26

Al told Jo that he buried Noah under a 'magic' tree on the beach that he visited as a boy. I thought from the scene where he sobbed in his car next to a building site that he buried him there and fabricated the beach scenario for Jo. Did anyone else think that?

GoldenGumballs · 15/10/2018 14:46

Wonder what the significance of the young boy screaming in the bush fire is?

Bestseller · 15/10/2018 14:52

Also, she was holding a baby surrounded by fire. Was that just imagery/some sort of metaphor. If it was it went over my head!

neveradullmoment99 · 15/10/2018 15:05

It was definitely her that gave the baby the medicine. I rewatched it and its a ladies hands and what looks like her jumper and she cleans his mouth with the bib. Saying that, how he knows that there was medicine on the bib I have no idea. If you rerun that bit it looks like him sleeping in the background.

HopeGarden · 15/10/2018 15:10

I suspect that Alistair gave the baby more medicine when Jo was asleep on the plane.

SoupDragon · 15/10/2018 15:24

You saw Alistair with a syringe of the medicine in a flashback last night. He's crouched on the flooor by a bag.

SoupDragon · 15/10/2018 15:34

I've rewatched the flight and Jo does taste the medicine before giving it. Nothing really shows Alistair giving it alone though.

pepperjack · 15/10/2018 17:20

I kept thinking I would want to die if that happened

And somehow I'm thinking he's staged his death to get away with it. But I guess murder without a body isn't done!

beanaseireann · 15/10/2018 17:22

KellyMarie
I agree that Alistair said he buried him under the magic tree but in reality he may have dumped Sadthe wee body under that building site or burned it.
I think that's what Joanna was talking about when she spoke of betrayal.
Or she may be as guilty as sin re the baby.
I thought too as one poster noted : how could she be breastfeeding and taking strong medicine that can kill a baby.
Surely the juggernaut driver would have reported a suicidal woman on the motorway ??

Blondeshavemorefun · 15/10/2018 17:24

wow just watched well done @thecatsthecats

i missed al telling jo about where he buried at the beach, can anyone find the time so i can re watch it

he is coniving and i feel jo thought they should call the plice, where as he said no as would hurt their/his chances with his eldest

think granny/his mum knows what al is like and on jo's side

was very suprised how easily he walked into the polie rooms

so sad he did die , wonder if we will see what happens, ie did she give wrong medicine or did he give extra

and yes kids medicine is very rarely over 100ml bottles, what was he on?

capol nurofen etc is all 100ml and ive taken via airport/plane

tallandhappygiraffe · 15/10/2018 17:35

Just watched yesterdays episode Shock Shock Shock Shock

I know he is extremely manipulative but would he knowingly kill his own child?

There is something very fishy about him and clearly the nan knows something is up.

I think there is something odd about Jo though or maybe its just that he is so manipulative that she has become so different. Also she must kill him soon because they are talking about the recent events in the trial.

Can't wait for the final part next week

SoupDragon · 15/10/2018 17:41

Morphine is just "not recommended" in breastfeeding as "small amounts" can pass through into breastmilk. I guess that's not the same as giving a baby a dose of it.

It might not have been oramprph though - that's what I thought it was but I might have been mistaken. I think she would have had to be in severe pain to be prescribed it and she doesn't seem to be.

Girliefriendlikesflowers · 15/10/2018 17:46

I'm pretty sure it's codeine in the bottle although not sure why she would have to take it in liquid form?! She also doesn't really seem to have any trouble with her back that would require such strong meds 😞

felicityy · 15/10/2018 17:52

Yes the whole medicine scenario just seems so totally unlikely, as girlie says, why would it be liquid? Why would she be prescribed a high dose potentially dangerous drug whilst breastfeeding and why even in a sleep deprived state would you put a strong medication and a babies teething medication in identical bottles and take them at the same time.

Delatron · 15/10/2018 17:55

Well yes, bad back not mentioned since!

Liquid medication for adults is quite unusual especially if you’re traveling on a plane. No way you’d put them in exactly the same bottle..

ellenanora5 · 15/10/2018 18:01

Thanks Ladygaladriel, I completely missed that, I'll watch it again because I think I might have dosed off.

Its gripping stuff though, I think it's been done brilliantly.

Romcomjunkie · 15/10/2018 18:12

Felicityy, totally agree, you just wouldn’t put them in the same bottles as you’d think ‘hang on, if we got them muddled up it could be catastrophic!’ Still, never mind, I’m just going with it and thoroughly enjoying it!

L238 · 15/10/2018 18:19

I think a lot of the stuff re the medicine has been lost in the TV adaptation. In the book they spend time describing how stressed she is about the long flight, frazzled /sleep deprived and acts without thinking rationally by putting her meds and baby’s into the same type of bottle.
In the book her meds are antibiotics for an ear infection (another reason she’s upset about flying) but I see they’ve changed it for the TV version to some kind of painkiller

Everincreasingfrequency · 15/10/2018 18:37

So, my insights on rewatching so far!

When they're in the car, it's after Jo mentions getting coffee that Al talks about the meds - my theory is that he suddenly remembers giving Noah medicine while Jo was getting coffee, and realises that he gave him the wrong one - so pins it on Jo. (This does involve him thinking incredibly quickly, and I realise it's inconsistent with him initially not remembering if Noah was awake at the airport. But I stand by the theory!)

It's in the garden that Jo realises, with a blinding clarity!, that he's manipulating her (this is after Alex has warned her) - and she starts acting then. When she meekly says to him in the garden that she thinks she can manage the tv interview with his help, she's playing along.

So, when on the tv interview Jo goes off script and starts asking whoever's got him to bring Noah back, I think that she is being calculating - she's trying to set things up so that she can claim she genuinely thought Noah had been kidnapped, and that Al killed him by mistake. At this stage she's in the process of forming a plan to turn him in, I think.

Romcomjunkie · 15/10/2018 19:31

Ever, if he realised at the airport surely he would have sought help and got Noah checked out? He can’t be THAT evil, surely?!

Everincreasingfrequency · 15/10/2018 19:42

Ah no Romcom I meant that after they've found Noah dead they're driving along and Jo mentions that she went to get coffee - that triggers Al's memory that he gave Noah meds when she went to get the coffee and he realises it's his fault. (my theory)

He seems slightly less evil on second viewing - obviously very very controlling and manipulative, but I think his devastation about Noah is real. I wonder if Jo is misremembering things slightly, so we are led to believe he's worse than he is (assuming we see the scenes from her point of view - obviously that doesn 't work with the scene with Alex though!)

Romcomjunkie · 15/10/2018 19:47

Ah, yes I get you, Ever! Good theory! I can’t wait for the final episode.

NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 15/10/2018 19:49

Jo could be an entirely unreliable narrator...

Blondeshavemorefun · 15/10/2018 20:04

Why do they change things from books

MajesticWhine · 15/10/2018 21:06

Arrogance - i.e. we can do a better job

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