Love Island 16

[MrsFassy]

Here we go again

To the idiot who called Alex3 'basic', of course it's an insult. Funny how the guys you say she's more suited to are all black/mixed .
Alex1 is disgusting and much worse than Adam who had Women's Aid after him! Just because he couldn't keep a straight face during a speech from Rosie which he knew was prewritten and prerehearsed!

A pp said they "really had to work hard to get with my dh" (or something along those lines) I just don't understand that. Surely when you're in to someone and they are in to you
it isn't work? It should just flow, it should be fun and without drama..

There wasn’t drama as such, we were both young and I had kids from a previous marriage. He was worried about where it would go in the future. He was a massive anxious wreck. He isn’t now and our relationship is perfect (one child together, house bought etc). Looking back I had a lot of baggage and completely different to him. He had a good job, money, he is smart. I was a single mum on benefits.

Alex had to choose Alexandra at the last recoupling, she was the only girl left. I also think Paul was always going to choose Laura, Alex3 scared him off with her kiss comment.

I think Alex has to an extent been playing the game, but so have the majority of the other islanders. Laura completely dismissed Paul until there was no other choice for her.

I think Alex tried to force it with Alexandra, all he had to do was wait a few more day, a week at most, and they'd be out and he could have told her then, but he knew that wasn't fair, allowing Alex3 to get more invested so he told her.

He was a shit for pursuing her again but I do think he felt he had to, then the reality of the situation became too much.

Her parents going in should be interesting 😬

"Alex1 is disgusting and much worse than Adam who had Women's Aid after him! Just because he couldn't keep a straight face during a speech from Rosie which he knew was prewritten and prerehearsed!*"
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well then I guess we'll hear from Women's Aid shortly won't we?

As an aside, has Adam claimed it was prewritten and prerehearsed then, can you provide a link?

Alex's behaviour has been incredibly odd from the very start hasn't it? I have absolutely no idea what he is looking for!

I suppose he could have completely faked it with Alexandra and tried to win, so.... fair play for being honest with her at this point? I guess?

Poor Alexandra, she is a total catch.

The whole Alex thing has hit a nerve with me as he too reminds me of my DH. Lots of people told me they thought he was either gay or a virgin. In actual fact, he had been concentrating so much on his career until he met me that he didn’t really know what he was supposed to do. He had slept with women, but was very insecure about being in a relationship because it was so unknown to him. 5 years after we met we finally got together officially. Now he is unbelievably affectionate and loving since he was comfortable enough to open up about his insecurities. He would be so uncomfortable in that villa!

Similar to a PP, I don’t find any of the men in the villa particularly attractive (apart from Alex) because I just can’t relate to any of them and their lives. I can look at them and understand how others would find them attractive, but they don’t appeal to me at all, and I would feel very uncomfortable around the men. It’s possible Alex is in a similar situation as he hadn’t seen the show before and was head hunted. The whole aim of the game though is to try and form relationships. Not all relationships work out, and I don’t think Alex has done anything particularly awful (and actually telling Alexandra the truth a few days before the final rather than stringing her along until the moment they got outside shows he is less of a game player than a lot of the other islanders)

"I have absolutely no idea what he is looking for!"

I think an ex gf spoke out and said his type is 'older and professional' so there hasn't been an abundance of choice really. It might be why he chose Laura initially, being the oldest girl in there.

I don’t think Alex is straight.

“I’m just not feeling it”

I don’t think he can. Yes he likes the chase and the optimism he might be able to feel it, but he just can’t.

He’s shown absolutely no sign of attraction to any female in the house, you know a ‘stimulation’ that you can’t control if you feel a sexual attraction to someone. That ranges from no smiley eyes, no flirty eyes, no checking out of women, no ‘phwoaring’ at a woman’s body (this doesn’t have to be in a Josh/ Wes way but even a small polite sigh on sight of a hot woman hasn’t happened), no conversation of any type in the whole time of ‘wanting’ any one in there.

That is not the usual behaviour of a straight man in his 20s. They are built to want sexual contact with women if they are straight.

I don't really see what Alex has done that is so wrong.

Surely when it's such early stages you shouldn't have to force it or try to hard. He's a bit of a cold fish and alexandr is very affectionate. They are just not compatible and Alex can see that and has now put a stop to it.

He shouldn't have to change who he is.

Maybe he just hasn't fancied anyone?

He clearly fancied Megan but she didn't like him.
If I was in there I don't think I would have fancied anyone so would I then be called a Lesbian. How ridiculous.

Alex and Alexandra have to leave now, surely? It really ramps up in the romance stakes this last few days. It would be very awkward. How can they meet the parents etc?!

"even a small polite sigh on sight of a hot woman hasn’t happened"

How do you know? We've been getting 24-48hrs of footage condensed into an 45mins of programme.

And if he had, he'd be accused of being creepy, perving, being disrespectful, treating women as objects.

I feel like he can't win. He's vilified for being different to the identikit lads and vilified when he tries to do what everyone else is doing.

At the end of the day he told her now when he didn't have to, and seems very well liked in the villa, which makes him imperfect but still streets ahead of the others imo.

I think Alex thought Alex3 was OK at first, so went for it because that's the game. She's clearly not his type, I also think he likes Laura1, fancied Megan and Ellie2 and also liked Laura2. He's awkward and to be honest, he hasn't had many options, no one has fancied him so it's not like he's rejected all those girls.

He was happy to go with the flow, but I think the whole telling the world about the hand down the shorts thing reminded Alex that he was on a game show on national TV and scared him. She is also quite full on which has just put him off, I think it put Paul off too.

Lots of them have been frightened by the expectations that a night in the hideaway brings. Alex's outfit, her super-sexy attitude and all the cheering just gave him the ick. It would with me too.

To be honest, at recoupling, Alex had no choice but to pick her because she was pretty much the only option. She tried really hard to go for someone else, and they didn't pick her, so it was stay with him or go home. She stayed, even when she was cross and didn't like him. I think she's playing the game too ( which is fair enough, it IS a game) and went with Alex because he was her passport to the final.

Haven’t read all the replies re last nights episode, but I actually don’t think Alex is gay. He’s treated Alexandra v badly IMO, but I don’t think he’s gay.

My husband would be EXACTLY the same in there, though not awkward thank god! But he wouldn’t have fancied any of the women in there because he’s a bit of a snob and none of them would’ve been intellectual or natural enough for him. And I have to be honest and say I’m a bit similar when it comes to guys.

It doesn’t matter how good looking someone, for me to actually fancy them they have to be intelligent, with good prospects, a good sense of humour and similar interests etc. I was single for 2.5 years before I met DP yet dated every week, the majority were really nice, good looking men but they just weren’t what I was looking for. I didn’t go on anymore than 2 dates with any of them, or do anything more than a quick snog, because I just couldn’t. Didn’t want to, wasn’t attracted to them.

I honestly think he’s the same. He has treated her awfully and completely led her on and that is awful, but I hate the assumption on here that if people are good looking, people should automatically want to jump their bones and in LI’s case, ‘couple up’ with them. I could snog a couple of those guys in there, but I honestly couldn’t bring myself to couple up with any of them- well, maybe Paul and Jack for his personality but apart from that....

So yeh, I don’t think he’s Gay, I think he’s just fussy, a bit snobby and can’t bring himself to do anything more than kiss someone that he doesn’t really fancy.

He shouldn’t have gone on LI though. The people that go on there were never really going to be his ‘type’

Completely agree Rainy and Blank. If he hadn’t tried with Alex, people would have moaned just as much. It was clear on that date that despite everything, the two Alex’s are not suited. He was put off by how forward she was, and she was put off by his reticence. The more one thing was pushed, from either side, the less likely it was to work.
I don’t know why he’s being vilified for ending it now rather than letting it limp on for a few days. He’s clearly not playing a game, otherwise he’d have pretended for the last few days. Some of the others in there are far less genuine about this and haven’t taken this level of abuse.

I don’t understand how people are saying he led her on, actually. He said all along ‘one day at a time’, ‘take it slow’. They wanted to move at different paces and that became blindingly obvious in the date. I think she thought he would change, maybe he thought she accepted what he was saying. Clearly a mismatch of expectation, and when he realised it wasn’t going to work and that they weren’t on the same page, he ended it.

MissDollyMix Agee completely with your comment at 23:11. I think he wanted to like Alexandra, but in the end wasn't feeling it. I think all the talk about the future and meeting the family brought it home to him and I do think it's better he was honest with her, though she is well within her rights to be annoyed. I would be...he has absolutely messed her around. I don't think he's gay, I just don't think he's found his type. I don't fancy any of the men (I actually actively dislike some of them) so imagine I'd struggle in there. I love some of the women though, but that doesn't make me a lesbian.

Ariel I think you're right, all the talk of the future may have made him feel guilty about dragging it out, that's why he finished it.

He was thinking holiday romance, she'll do, she wants more (or says she wants more). It's one think having a snog and a fumble for the summer it's quite another having to be together later, or reading stories about you love rat tendencies in the Daily Mail!

I thought the Ferrari date was probably the nail in the coffin, with all the talk of their lives on the outside, meeting parents and so on.

He had a second try with her because the alternative was going home. Not particularly honourable, but understandable given the parameters of the show. I'm not sure that anyone, across the three series, has ever refused to couple up because they don't fancy anyone, and chosen to go home instead?

And fwiw I wouldn't fancy her either. She was so forward when she asked Paul for a kiss, and the way she dressed for the hideaway. She's playing her own game, thinking she'd be the one to go in and save Alex. There's nothing wrong with that, it is a game, but there's also nothing wrong with Alex refusing to play along any more and at least some of her hurt stems from her plans going awry imo. I find the view that Alex should be grateful that she finds him attractive particularly horrible.

I still quite like Dr Alex. I don't think he's handled the Alexandra situation in the best way but why doesn't he deserve to be there? It's a game where you might find love. He's played the game but not found love.

I think if it were me, I would just fake affection for a few days and get to the final and hopefully win but I'm greedy But he clearly doesn't feel comfortable with this. He shouldn't have to fake anything if he doesn't want to.

He seems decent enough, just not suited to the programme because he doesn't want to bonk on national tv every 5 mins. I wonder if he should have done a bit more research into the show!

I don't think Dr Alex has done anything wrong either. I completely understand where he is coming from. Sometimes you want to find someone attractive, can objectively see that they are attractive but just don't feel it.

I think he was desperately trying to 'fake it till you make it' but it just didn't happen. If you then get the 'ick' as I think they call it - the thought of being physically affectionate can feel almost repulsive. It's not nice but sometimes people cannot control that reflex.

If Alex was female - all this pressure to be physically affectionate would be frowned upon. If he had strung her along just to win, that would be so much worse. He bit the bullet and ended it.

Massive sympathy for Alex 3 - as she did put all her eggs in his basket.

I genuinely don't think he has been into any of the girls. And every one h s shown interest in if they'd been the same back he'd have treated them the same as Alexandra. "The feelings are wrong", He simply doesn't want physical intimacy with any female, and he's been dishonest from the start and needed to end it with Alexandra before he was forced to be even more intimate.

Even the house mates were starting to question why he was so very hands off and spotting something was very wrong in the way he treated her. In the way he treated all of them. Remember with Ellie and his condescending "you're so cute" comment. He's no gent.

He's played a game to stay there, and successfully too. Often gaslighting the girls to make it look like it's their fault and not his. Because that's what he wanted everyone to think, it's their fault not his. It's why he took grace in, because he suspected the other one might like him and he'd have to pretend to be attracted to her. He deliberately picked grace as he knew she wasn't into him.

The problem he had was Alexandra called his bluff, said she was interested and he just couldn't bring himself to pretend to be attracted to her,

I honestly think he should leave. He's maximised it for as much exposure as he can get in his quest to be a tv doctor. He's got his five mins of fame. It should be over for him now.

There are any number of people in previous LI who have shagged and dumped, promised stuff to stay in and then gone off with someone else.

Frankly, this is honourable compared to that- but maybe the fact that he's rejecting her without going for someone else, when the end is in sight, is particularly hurtful.

And every one he's shown interest in if they'd been the same back he'd have treated them the same as Alexandra

How do you know that? He never looked into Alex but he properly perked up when Laura2 walked in.

I don't know about Alex being gay, I think he may have a classic madonna/whore complex, women can be admired from afar but touching and engaging with them as human beings is impossible. Hence howhe could have slept with a lot of women - he won't have had to see them as people, just a sex object. Once they become a person, they are like mummy and can't be touched.