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Love Island - part 4

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Violetroselily · 21/06/2018 21:59

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RoseWhiteTips · 26/06/2018 10:21

of Alex

BlancheM · 26/06/2018 10:21

Middle unless you're a misogynist man then it's safe to say you don't have incel tendencies :)

MiddleClassProblem · 26/06/2018 10:21

What’s it called in a couple then? Just sad? Grin we’re just sad lol

Shambu · 26/06/2018 10:23

Everything Eyal says is irritating, he's clearly getting on Meg's nerves.

RoseWhiteTips · 26/06/2018 10:25

MiddleClassProblem

Incel = involuntary celibate

Oh I’m incel then because we’re currently sharing a room with a toddler 🙄

Indeed 😂

Shambu · 26/06/2018 10:26

I can see a small element of it in Alex but I don't think he is like that outside the villa

Why? I'm sure he's exactly the same. People tend to behave better on telly than they do in real life if anything.

AliasGrape · 26/06/2018 10:29

I genuinely think people are being way too unkind to Alex. I don’t think he’s angry with her for not fancying him, in fact he’s repeatedly said so. He wasn’t angry with Samira for not fancying him. In fact they stayed as friends and worked together. He’s said he was angry with Elly for being rude, making zero effort as soon as recoupling was over, and basically not speaking to him outside of task/arranged brunch for two full days. She DID say to him that she wanted to see how things go, that she hoped that when they recoupled they could let things develop more naturally (I agree the staged kiss etc was cringe) and then as soon as they recoupled she suddenly had the ‘revelation’ that she didn’t fancy him. She told Sam that she didn’t want him to pursue her as she was interested in giving Alex a chance, which Sam reported back to Alex, he obviously felt happy and pleased and excited hearing that, then 12 hours later she’s suddenly not got any interest in giving it a chance whatsoever. He ironed Sams shirt for their date and told Ellie to have a good time and that she looked lovely, that’s not incel behaviour.

I can see he’s awkward and not helped himself, but I think his annoyance is justified. And she was rude in their argument, not letting him get a word in. No she didn’t come in saying ‘Alex is the guy for me’ in so many words, but she did seem to focus on him, and she did imply to him that she wanted him to choose her so they could relax a bit more together and see how it went. To go from that to not speaking to him, avoiding him and telling everyone in the villa that she didn’t fancy him was a bit jarring. I don’t see how that’s interpretation when it’s right there on the tape as what happened? He was angry that she didn’t make any effort to get to know him, be friendly or spend any time with him once the recoupling was over - Eyal and Charlie both were angry with Hayley for the exact same thing and it got Hayley and Charlie booted out, Adam was very explicit that he ditched Kendall for not making more ‘effort’ (and in his case it was very much meant in the ‘she made no effort to suck my knob’ sense), so maybe Alex does feel ‘entitled’ for a girl to fancy him but no more so than any of the others. In fact I’d imagine they all feel entitled to it since the entire premise of the show is ‘lots of 20 something’s going in to shag’, it’s basically what they all signed up for.

Ellie and Wes should probably get together now, although it seems Megan has other plans. I’d love someone to come in that ‘worked’ with Alex but I think even if anyone did genuinely feel interested now there’d just be too much pressure and weirdness and he’s clearly massively overthinking everything so, much as I hate to say it, I do think he needs to come out. I love Jack and Danni. I’m enjoying ‘the bird’, eyebrows notwithstanding, and Samira’s attempt at flirting. Love the way she basically pushed him over after their little kiss, and the ‘like your coord’ comment. Definitely my kind of flirting. Adam is good fun when in friend situations and vile in couples. I’m hoping the reason Zara has gone quiet and dull is she’s secretly plotting his downfall in the most humiliating fashion possible, but unfortunately it seems to me she’s just gone cockblind. Josh and Georgia - meh, they’re sweet enough but I’m not feeling it, she seems like such a child.

On a side note,this is my first series and I’m not a massive reality tv watcher normally (I like to occasionally shout at TOWIE but that’s all - no jungle, BGT, made in Chelsea, Ex on beach, Geordie shore etc etc etc) But I’ve genuinely surprised myself by how overinvested I’ve become! And not necessarily in a fun way, I do wonder if I ought to back away slowly Grin

MiddleClassProblem · 26/06/2018 10:29

People don’t behave better on Love Island or BB

Not being able to get out and lack of outside contact makes it more extreme. I think that’s made Laura a bit more batshit. It’s hard to filter yourself weeks on end especially in that environment.

Shambu · 26/06/2018 10:33

I think some people behave better on tv shows - the ones that manage to tend to come out on top. Those who behave badly - I think they're behaving the same as they would in the outside world, not worse.

Shambu · 26/06/2018 10:35

I genuinely think people are being way too unkind to Alex

And others think people are being way too kind.

papayasareyum · 26/06/2018 10:37

I don’t think Alex is annoyed with Ellie because she doesn’t fancy him. He’s annoyed with Ellie because it’s crystal clear she used him to win her place in the villa, will now dump him and he’ll be evicted. She did lie to him. She told him that she wanted to see if they could work and she did give Alex the impression she fancied him and then after the first night decided she didn’t fancy him. She never fancied him in the first place! He was her only available option to stay in the villa. It’s left Alex feeling a bit of a fool and also probably quite upset that nobody fancies him at all. I don’t blame him for being annoyed. The problem is, he’s an introverted intellectual in a villa full of vacuous models and celeb wannabees. He has nothing in common with any of them because they don’t need a guy to be intelligent, thoughtful or considerate to be attractive: they just need him to be ripped, tanned and have good banter. It’s quite depressing.

slinkyme · 26/06/2018 10:38

Alias I completely agree with your summary of Alex and Ellie situation. You summed up perfectly what I was thinking. They clearly don't have any chemistry and so can't even communicate properly. Will be interesting to see what will happen next.

OutofTyme · 26/06/2018 10:39

I feel sorry for Laura because Wes was telling her he was falling for her and discussing the possibility of a relationship. Now he has shown himself to be plain nasty. I don't think his age is an excuse either. He's not a child and how much longer are people going to act like men should be treated like children just because they still live with parents.

ffaith · 26/06/2018 10:44

I wonder what part the producers have played in the Alex/Ellie situation?

MrsFassy · 26/06/2018 10:50

Alias I agree completely with your assessment of the Alex/Ellie situation.

Other people saying Ellie made an effort, when? From what was said, and she didn't actually dispute it, a few hours after the recoupling she decided she wasn't interested but rather than tell Alex and agree to just be friends, she ignored him. And it sounds like Alex stepped back and hasn't tried to force her into spending time with him. All he wanted was for her be honest and admit she didn't fancy him, so he knew where he stood.

And I think as others have said, they all think they're 'entitled' to find someone in there to couple up with. It's the whole point of the show.

Yamayo · 26/06/2018 10:55

AliasGrace that's precisely why people are being 'unkind to Alex'.
Despite the scenario of him as the bumbling good guy (encouraged by all the housemates) he's proven himself to be as entitled as some of the other guys that have been slated.
By the way Jack has told Dani repeatedly that he is happy to wait and wants her to be comfortable with what happens between them.

SaffaQueen · 26/06/2018 11:09

Re Adam and his 200 tally 😳
Especially considering he was in a serious relationship!! Has to be a bit of embellishment to cement his alpha male status or he is counting in “doing bits”!
What was equally alarming was Zara hardly batting an eyelid and seeming slightly impressed - that would have raised even more red flags! Agree that she’s turned into an infatuated Stepford Wife.

On Alex & Ellie, agree with a number of the posts - neither comes out smelling like roses, but what was really poor form was Ellie telling all & sundry in the house about how she was feeling, bar Alex. That makes him look like a mug & I would also be pissed. Agree it’s an awkward convo, but then don’t prattle off to everyone else and give him the cold shoulder all day?

Shambu · 26/06/2018 11:23

I'm not convinced Zara is infatuated with Adam, I'm not even sure she's feeling it.

Re Ellie - if any of them have to have a difficult conversation they discuss it with their mates first. That's what people do in real life, this just happens to be on TV.

It's only when you express things out loud that you crystallise how you feel and what you need to say.

I think Ellie spent the day 1) mulling over what she was going to say and 2) avoiding a painful conversation because although she doesn't fancy Alex neither does she want to hurt his feelings.

MiddleClassProblem · 26/06/2018 11:58

I think producers encouraged Ellie to do the chat in the evening.

ScarletLouise · 26/06/2018 12:14

Have missed the past two nights due to work, hoping the kids have an early night so I can have a big catch up this eve!

200 women though?? Logically and mathematically that does seem off for a 22-year-old. How long was he supposedly in a serious relationship for?

I suppose they can all give any number they like

PrincessScarlett · 26/06/2018 12:23

I don't think Ellie has lied or been dishonest. Her only mistake was taking so long to tell Alex and you can bet the producers had some say in that to ensure Alex was whipped up into a frenzy.

They've only been coupled for a couple of days. If she had been stringing him along for weeks without saying anything Alex might have a point.

They are ALL game players, that's the whole point of the show. I think it's perfectly understandable that Ellie realised that first night she got in bed with Alex she'd made a huge mistake. She may have avoided him for the 2 days they were together as she was trying to work out how to break it off without upsetting him and we only see one hour of each day so no way of knowing if they literally didn't speak for 2 days.

RainySeptember · 26/06/2018 12:28

It seems like a lot of the criticism levelled at Alex is just guessing though - pp saying he feels entitled, that he's annoyed because she doesn't fancy him and so on.

He never said any of that. What he said was that he thought she'd been rude in ignoring him, and that she appeared to have played a manipulative game by changing her mind about him within hours of the recoupling.

And let's not forget that the name of the game is to couple up in order to stay in there, and to be in with a chance of winning. If some people appear desperate or entitled it doesn't mean they're like that in rl.

Incel - hardly. Is this the new 'narcissist' to be bandied about by armchair psychologists everywhere now?

Bluntness100 · 26/06/2018 12:47

I think Wes was just infatuated at the start, he'd pulled an attractive older woman and couldn't believe his luck. On the face of it, she was well out of his league. I suspect when he said things like he as falling for her he believed it at the time. I don't think it was malicious.

However his feelings have clearly changed and have been changing for awhile. I suspect a lot of it is to do with Laura's needy and controlling behaviour. When she argues with him it's like watching a mum giving her teenage kid into trouble.

They really need to stop shagging though. I don't know how they can do it, with people literally two feet away from them and knowing their are being filmed. They seem to be the only couple shagging in the main bedroom.

Darlin · 26/06/2018 12:57

I don't think Ellie needed to couple up with Alex to stay in, there were plenty of interest in her from other guys. Wes and Sam would've both happily picked her if she hadn't told them to back off. So in light of this I don't believe she was playing Alex just to stay in, she genuinely wanted to give it a go in a couple without the pressure the others were putting on her. After coupling up she realized that no it wasn't just the pressure putting her off of him. She got the ick. It happens.

TatianaLarina · 26/06/2018 13:16

Agree Darlin, Ellie went for the least viable option, if she were playing a game she would have gone for someone that it would be more likely to work with.

Equally, if she had been playing Alex, I don’t think she would have been so equivocal during their chat prior to recoupling, I think she’d have gone in stronger.

I also think if she were playing him she would have acted into him for a few days after recoupling and only then said it wasn’t working.