Love Island - part 4

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As soon as Alex started talking in that argument I completely went off him, being unhappy because she turned round in bed?? He thinks he’s entitled to mention it as if he has a point? What a prick. How dare he. The only thing he has a right to do is question whether she was game planning regarding the recoupling. Still, can’t help having a HUGE crush on him still.

@PrincessScarlett, I agree with you a lot of pressure was put on her to like Alex. However, regarding the point she didn’t want to step on other girls toes, she could have made a beeline for new boy Sam, no?

Just caught up.

So on the fence.

There is something creepy and off about Alex

However

Ellie was NEVER interested him and led him on in order to stay on the show

Wes drops in my estimation every episode
Megan was never in my estimation

Actually after re watching the Mr and Mrs Game —I have no life—I take back my claim that Wes made it personal. That question was highly edited, so I found impossible to judge whether the question was about a girl generally or their partner.

I too am on the fence about the Alex and Ellie situation. I too believe there is no way Ellie didn’t know she wasn’t physically attracted to him until they had to share the bed the night of the recouping. However, she was put under a lot of pressure to couple up with Alex. I keep reminding myself this show is highly edited so it’s hard to judge whether she did ignore him apart from when she had to interact in the games and brunch as we are only shown so little of the 48 hours after the recoupling.

I really disagree about Ellie - you could see she was in two minds, same as Megan and they both came under a lot of pressure. I’ve had friends in that situation when we were younger - they wanted to fancy someone more than they actually did.

What Ellie actually said in the conversation before recoupling was that they could see where it went and see if they was something there or it just didn’t work. People are misremembering that conversation, including Alex. She never gave him any kind of guarantee, quite the opposite.

When Ellie said that, I knew what his reaction was going to be if it didn’t work.

He actually nuked Ellie’s attraction to him, himself. The horrifically awkward kiss, his total lack of chat, the patronising of her. He doesn’t seem to have any insight for why it didn’t work and his own part, he’s really manipulative too trying to turn viewers against her in his indignation and it’s working, going by the comments here.

The incel comment is absolutely spot on.

I always wonder how women end in relationships with guys like him, the fact that some posters on here don’t see the problem, and are happy to blame Ellie, sort of explains it.

I got distracted the whole time trying to work out what was going on with Laura's underboob again, if it was a trick of the light or she keeps wearing bikini tops like that.

Really interesting to read everyone's different takes on the A & E situation.

I think Alex was right, FWIW. Ellie chose him because he was the safe option to remain in the villa and she admitted herself that a mere few hours after the recoupling she didn't conveniently realised she fancy him. Which is just bullshit. You could tell how flustered she got in their argument that she was trying to cover her arse. Though I do agree that she was put under pressure to like him which is not fair as it limits her chance to play the field.

Everyone's infantilising of Alex is so annoying though. The applause when he kissed Ellie was the worst, it was like he was their little pet who performed a trick well.

Gotta say though: I also get total incel vibes about him.

Not saying that Ellie played it well, I think she should have accepted that things weren’t likely to get better, and gone for Sam. I think he would have picked her if she’d encouraged him.

Alex definitely was in the right but he was downright rude in the way he spoke to her.

Arse.

But Ellie was awful during that “chat”. She kept butting in and not letting him speak which is rude - and we know she does rude considering she had blanked him because SHE didn’t want to man up to what she had to do. I really dislike her.
For his own good, Alex should get the hell out of there.

I think both Alex and Ellie had points. I don’t think she’s a bad person and I don’t think he was wrong in his perception of how it changed in his mind. She was pushed into being with him. This kiss was a great example of that and the next day she said how it made her feel. Dani said they all were pushing her too.

I’m really looking forward to Megan making a move on Wes. That’s a great bit of stirring. Laura is probably my least favourite in there. Don’t hate her but she’s very highly strung in there. Fine get made at being called ignorant but the rest of the stuff is too much.

“You never call me babe” I mean, really.

Looking forward to the mix up tomorrow and inevitable kick off. Not even had boys in.

Looks like a couple going which is annoying. VOTE A MAN OFF! ON HIS OWN!

Xpost - I can’t watch an argument in which a man is angry with a woman for not fancying him and think he’s ‘right’. I don’t know on what planet that is not ridiculous.

Wes is a creep.

Oh and Adam blatantly made up that number as he thought all the other boys would have big numbers too. You’re not Jordan Davies. And we only believe his number as he did a good 100 on the telly 😂

Although maybe not the number he said on BB

Laura and Megan are other contestants trying to make something work in their head which just isn’t working.

The argument from his side was more about her dishonesty.

Ellie went in to that chat expecting Alex to be like a sad little puppy. She said her peice and expected that to be the end of it. She didn't even ask him what he thought or how he felt about it. "I'm so sorry but there's no spark but your such a nice guy so no hard feelings yeah?" I think she was genuinely surprised that he didn't look all heartbroken and grovel. Didn't help that everyone kept saying 'oh Alex is just so cute, he's such a nice guy.' to her before the chat.

Poor old Adam. Everyone ya being so mean to him.
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*is being

He’s trying to make it about her supposed dishonesty (he clearly doesn’t remember the details of the chat they had before recoupling) but it’s really just incel indignation.

I feel a bit sorry for Laura. It does sound needy and pathetic when she's trying to explain what is wrong in the relationship, but then I think she's just struggling to articulate that something just feels 'off' to her; she knows the temperature of the relationship is cooling, she senses his loss of interest, and she's sad about it, and probably also worried about her position on the show, but it all comes out wrong, banging on about him never making breakfast or calling her babe.

And she's right isn't she, he would be off like a shot if someone gave him a glimmer of interest, she's absolutely right, he's just saying/doing what he needs to to keep her on the hook for now.

Agree whole heartedly Tatiana

I think part of the reason Alex is so pissed is that he gave up a "safe" friendship couple to take a punt on Ellie, and now she's got herself over recoupling (and safe in the knowledge it's likely to be girls' pick next) she doesn't want to know.

So he's dicked over Samira, who could easily could've got sent home but is now in a romantic couple with Sam, and Alex is suddenly in a much more precarious situation. And also his pride's hurt, she's been so transparent and that's got to wrankle.

I can see why his pride's hurt. He defended Ellie quite forcefully when Samira suggested she wasn't genuine and must feel a bit of a fool. Plus she told everyone she didn't fancy him and 'had really tried' before she told him.

I haven't seen any entitlement. He's made it really clear that he wishes she'd been honest about the lack of attraction before the recoupling, and suggested she could've been more honest after, at least being friendly.

Whatever anyone thinks of him, I think incel is a ridiculously harsh term to throw about in this situation, it's a really nasty subculture, not appropriate here at all imo.