Our Girl and Captain James XLVII

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Not much longer to wait out for the Nigeria episodes! Some of us are still mourning the death of Elvis.

You see, I'm so fed up I can't even spell correctly or construct my sentences properly!

This is the first time I've not watched it and not had my laptop on my knee. I was emailing a friend off and on throughout. I probably need to watch it again and concentrate properly before commenting. I did quite like CJ in it for most of the time.

When are we doing our watchalong? Sunday as usual?

Hi everyone, I'm new to this thread and having only watched the 1st series about 6 weeks ago I cannot believe that he would go for another medic after what he had with Molly. Its just not him and I'm still hoping that he will fight for what they had. It seems to be too obvious that something is going to happen between cj and Georgie but I don't think it will and all will be revealed in the final episode. I hope so anyway.
As I didn't watch the 1st series in 2014 like everyone else, I was just wondering if the episode guides and spoilers led people to believe that Molly was going to end up with Smurf and did the final episode come as a huge shock when she did end up with cj?

Sunday's ok for me.

As for this episode there were a few moments that I either laughed or rolled my eyes. Lots of banter with Two Section but the kids stuff with Monk was a bit cringey and all the mournful memories of Bones weren't very convincing. I still just don't care at all. (side issue - was it Bones in that trailer for the new drama which they ran afterwards. It looked a bit like him and if so he was cavorting in his pants and definitely displaying a bit more personality - or something like it )

I laughed when CJ got touchy about Two Section liking Bones more than him and Maisie laying it on a bit thick about how good CJ was when she realised his feelings were hurt.

Nice bit of stern-face when he gave them a bollocking for going off in pursuit of the drug dealer chap.

Eyes rolling when CJ wandered in to the barracks to speak to Georgie during the night - really???

Just trying to forget all the Molly stuff.

Hi Abmu.

One of the reasons this thread took off the way it did was because we were left hanging after episode 4 of the first series. At the end of the other episodes, we had seen a snippet of the next one but it just said "To be continued" or something similar. That's when we were all Googling Our Girl madly to try and find out anything we could about CJ recovering and did Molly choose him or Smurf. It was quite an exciting time!

Oh welcome abmu. You have come to the right place to find CJ and Molly fans.

You are right about all the nerves and uncertainty over what would happen between episodes 4 and 5 of series 1 when it was first broadcast. You have no idea how feverish we all were over whether CJ would die or what would happen. I've never known anything like it and everyone was desperate to try to find any little clue as to how it would turn out. I think the vast majority of us wanted Molly to be with CJ but there was sympathy for Smurf. The papers had let slip that there would be a funeral but we didn't know whose it would be.

I certainly feel that the CJ of series 1 wouldn't behave this way but I suppose a lot of water has flowed beneath the bridge and the reality is that it's not easy keeping a marriage together in the army particularly when PTSD is involved added to grief and guilt. Even so, I can't see how CJ and Georgie could make a successful go of things. It looks like another disaster waiting to happen to me.

He looked very upset after his phone call. He clearly still loves Molly and doesn’t want his marriage to be over - so yes, go and fight for her. Have now convinced myself that if anything does happen between Georgie and CJ that it won’t last cos they’ll both be on the rebound!! Can’t help but wonder if the viewers who are not as invested as we are and haven’t read all the interviews even know Captain James is suffering from PTSD.

I think some of those who are keen on the idea of CJ and Georgie together just want to see a bit of romance. If there hadn't been the CJ and Molly relationship perhaps it would have been alright but killing the idea of CJ and Molly's marriage and their whole story just diminishes CJ.

I'd be more than happy to settle for the Rab and Maisie story. Perhaps they could end episode 8 with a bit of a snog so we can all go ahhhh!

Yes, I agree Rhu - it would be acceptable if there hadn’t been the Molly and CJ relationship. He was such a stickler for the rules and to have him fall for someone else under his command - especially whilst married - just makes his character out to be very fickle and weak. But that said, I do get why he feels the responsibility and the grief and guilt and that he can’t see the person he has become. And I know its a tv programme but ending it on a phone call when he’s on tour???? She’s more likely to have done it before he left to go on that tour. Poor CJ - both his marriages have ended in exactly the same way! I also don’t want to be here this time next week feeling disappointed and that the last 4 years have all been for nothing.

Hi
I’ve just read all your comments and am as confused as well. My biggest fear is what am I going to do without OG. Four years is a long time to have been invested in a TV drama and all that has gone on alongside it. I can’t see another series though so DVDs will have to do.

As some of you know OG has got me through a couple of tough years and is still doing so hence the commitment. Hope we can all still keep in touch. I do always read your posts even if I don’t have time to post myself.

Thanks for the welcome. I watched a video on YouTube showing molly and cjs best bits and thought their chemistry was amazing so I went straight on amazon and bought series 1. I had the flu a couple of weeks later and thought I would watch the first episode but got so hooked I ended up watching all five in one go. I loved it, especially cj and his love for molly so these last few episodes have really ruined it for me.
I do think PTSD has a lot to do with it, he looks so lost and nothing like the man he was in series 1 and 2. He's been through so much that it wouldn't be normal for him not to have it. I think there will be a few more twists along the way and I hope we are being led down the wrong path.
Im a hopeless romantic but a relationship between CJ and Georgie is the last thing I want, I don't see any chemistry there whatsoever and he did look genuinely upset after his phone call. I can't wait to see what happens next week. Although if CJ and Georgie do get together I think I'll forget this series ever happened and watch series 1 again.

I was just trawling through the twitter comments (I only read them - I don't join in) and I saw a couple of people raise an interesting point. Did CJ actually answer that phone call from Molly? We saw him stare at the screen for a long time but we didn't see him pick up the call. Was he too scared or stressed to actually speak to Molly? Who knows what really might be going on. Perhaps she's desperate to speak to him but he won't answer. Just saying....

Hi everyone I am in France at present so haven't seen last night's episode and won't see next week's either. Trying not to feel disappointed by what I'm reading so I think I will just stay in the idea of OG ending after series 2. Elvis still alive and CJ and Molly seemingly happily married.

The fact that LT and LP couldn't continue due to other commitments just changed everything and TG obviously wanted his OG to continue hence these latest problems. I'm a bit of a coward I guess but liked it as it was.

I’ve not looked at any Twitter comments yet but him not answering the phone hadn’t occurred to me. What I did think was that maybe because of his PTSD he’s not hearing what Molly is really trying to say to him which is that he needs help and if he’s not willing to get the help he needs then there is no them. Clutching at any straws there might be now. CJ maybe won’t cross any lines whilst on tour but think Lane crossed a line by yet again calling him Charlie and the touching hands. If (and I’m now starting to think it’s a big IF) she has no feelings for him she needs remember he is her CO and keep him in his place. I know they are friends but if she is trying to keep distance between them she needs to put that friendship on hold. Abmu - hello, I too very much hope we’re being led down the wrong path and there are still lots more twists and turns as I do not want CJ and Lane to have any sort of relationship or I will have to pretend everything in this series has been a nightmare that didn’t happen!! Off camping today for a few days so probably won’t manage the watchalong but will look forward to reading all your comments.

I might be wrong but Georgie hasn't once said she's NOT attracted to CJ. All the reasons she's given are related to Elvis and Molly. I feel like she's holding back out of loyalty to them but actually has feelings for CJ. My main problem with that storyline is there was never a feeling in previous series that CJ was even close to Georgie nor was there any chemistry or rapport. I like the storyline in a way because it puts BA back in centre stage but it's not very credible.

Well I'm officially fed up. I get that it makes sense to remove the character if you can't get the actress to continue the part. Scheduling, other commitments, no interest, etc.

But I'm still pouting about it.

Massive pout here Bonnefoi

marvellously - as I may have remarked before, there is still time for Elvis to walk out of that shower and wake Georgie up.
MissE - don’t see anything wrong in Georgie talking only in terms of Molly and Elvis. There has been an absence of anything to indicate how traumatised she must have been , watching Bones being blown up. Can’t believe she wouldn’t have re-lived Elvis’s death at that moment. Was expecting her to make a suitable comment when Chowdrey’s wife said she kept imagining the bomb taking out her husband.Can’t believe Georgie didn’t even raise an eyebrow, far less wince.

I'm increasingly feeling sorry for Georgie.

If you consider her history she must be in quite a bad place right now. The love of her life jilted her at the altar and she picked herself up and tried to get on with her life despite being emotionally bruised. Then a hardworking, intelligent and decent - but boring - man wanted to marry her and make a happy family life with her. She thought that was what she wanted too until the love of her life appears again and turns everything upside down. So, as well as feeling guilty at letting down a decent man who loved her she has to decide whether to trust her jilter again and after finally acknowledging that she'll never love anyone else and agreeing to marry him, he is killed. Now, carrying a leaden weight of grief and guilt she finds herself drawn to the one person who probably understands best everything she has gone through and is suffering as well on several levels.

If you look at it that way, she's in a rotten place right now and I think it's understandable that she might have feelings for CJ although I think they're probably feelings of compassion. She is, after all, a compassionate person in a caring profession and CJ is pretty damaged right now. I don't think her feelings towards him are romantic love at all but it wouldn't be difficult to confuse them for love. As for CJ, I think it's a kind of desperation as he sees his life around him crumbling due to many factors. It seemed obvious to many of us that he still loves Molly. He might think his feelings for Georgie are love but they probably aren't.

Is this the basis of a lasting relationship? I very much doubt it.

Looking at it like this it's possible to feel very sorry for both of them. I think I must be mellowing or perhaps I'm trying to accept the inevitable by seeing it in the least worst light.

Just watched last night’s episode and ended up cringing behind a cushion when CJ was telling Georgie that him and Molly were over. The first series with Lacey Turner was so superior to anything that Michelle Keegan has produced (and to be honest I don’t think it’s been her fault, I just think the writing has been rubbish compared Mollys storyline). Think I’m going to struggle to watch anymore if they are going to get together - CJ and Georgie lack any type of chemistry whatsoever. Bring back Molly!!!!!

@Rhu : "Nice bit of stern-face when he gave them a bollocking for going off in pursuit of the drug dealer chap."

For a moment I was thinking he was channeling Bones there. I think that was the first time he really laid into someone from 2 section for being stupid or not following orders! He usually is Mr Nice Guy.

Been out and about a fair bit this week and not had too much chance to post as I've been too tired. Yesterday, I was doing a collection for the charity where I volunteer. We were in a local bank and I was there mainly to help the old partially sighted lady and her guide dog (he's gorgeous and was a real draw to the customers).

I really can't get into this last OG episode at all. Do you think this is how decompression starts. I've tried watching it three times now and am struggling (not helped by falling asleep at one point).

I'll be back at 9 pm on Sunday. Hope others have something more interesting to say about the episode than I probably will!

I am absolutely convinced that there won't be any further series of OG. I really hope though that we can all stay in touch. I know what Flower means about it helping her through a bad patch. Fingers crossed though that it doesn't end the way we all think it might.

Morning all! Are we still on for the watchalong tonight? I had a second viewing of episode 6 and, as usual, I thought it a little bit better when I viewed it again and doing the watchalong will be a nice intro to our two episode finale, even if we are all somewhat wary and on tenterhooks of how that will pan out.

If there isn't another series of OG then I really think we should simply keep the thread going - We used to call ourselves the Our Girl and CJ addicts at one time, so why not continue? or maybe put something like 'Our Girl and Captain James Nostalgics' in the title - and just keep talking about whatever we like or whatever we are enjoying on TV or whatever anyone from OG is appearing in now. Also - Strictly is due back in a couple of months and I do like chatting about that without trying to keep up with the main thread which moves too fast! BUT and it's a big BUT I think we should also do watchalongs every three months or so. We could just pick a series and do that for fun each week , just to remind ourselves why we're here in the first place. Who says we can't keep chatting here if we want! We all agreed a long time ago that this thread had become more than just talking about a TV programme and we've shared lots over the years. There's no reason for that to stop.

Last night I binge watched the first four episodes of series 1 and it reminded me exactly why I love OG so much (we had our minor little gripes but no TV series is ever 100% perfect). I love Molly Dawes because she has that wonderful combination of strength with compassion. At times she is vulnerable, says the wrong things and makes mistakes but you root for her throughout. I love her wit and one liners, the way she finds her place in the world and just everything about the chemistry with CJ. I also love her family, especially Belinda and even 'pantsman' Dave sometimes. The onion-soup-making, VW-camper-van dwelling Shazzer makes me laugh and even nan's musings about Princess Grace of Monaco bring a smile. Most of the time I love Smurf too - the more I watch it the more I wish he'd had a happy ending and found someone else poor Smurf RIP. I just found Molly to be 'real' for want of a better word. She could be any twenty-year old girl you know. Seeing her blossom and turn into this incredible young woman is just brilliant. Everything about that series is so different from the later ones, the whole ambience is different and I love the music too. For some reason it just resonated with all of us in a way the later series haven't even though we've enjoyed them and some of us were quite partial to Elvis and shed tears for him.

Watching it also, however, told me something important which is that no matter what happens in the later storylines with CJ or whoever, it won't change series 1 for me. I thought it would but it hasn't. I think that if the CJ and Molly 'breakup' had actually been played out before our eyes it might have destroyed it but the second-hand nature of this story without ever really hearing anything major and definitely seeing anything doesn't make it real to me at all. I'm still sure CJ loves Molly. When he called out her name on the bridge in episode 4 (and I love the way she shouted, "Oi, that's Dawes to you!") it reminded me of him calling out her name in the Jungle so much. I believe he loves her and nothing has really changed. Perhaps he has become very difficult to be around and things have become terribly strained between them but it doesn't mean that she doesn't love him and when there's still love there's always hope. If there isn't another series, I will imagine that they found their way back to each other (or maybe I'll write it!)

Ahhhh! OK that's me done with waxing lyrical. See you all later, hopefully, 9pm!

Rhu your post just made me feel a lot better. Everything you say about series one is exactly how I've always felt about it and about Molly. I still haven't seen episode 6 and won't in fact see 7 and 8 till 8 get home early August. Somehow I'm not too bothered by that as I feel all you and others have said on here has kind of cushioned it for me and I will just carry on believing in a Molly and CJ situation.

Like Ilove I don't really think there will be another OG series and don't even feel bad about it. Would love to think, as you suggest that this thread could continue probably on the subject of tv programmes we've loved or hated. Certainly will be keeping an eye out for anything BA is in and hope they are on a channel I can watch!

Thank goodness I've got series one DVD. I've got series 2 as well but don't feel so protective of that but will certainly guard series one.

Shall be reading your watch along comments probably tomorrow morning as it would be a bit late tonight in France - go to get my beauty sleep😜

Yes, I'm still up for 9 pm!