Our Girl and Captain James XLVII

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Not much longer to wait out for the Nigeria episodes! Some of us are still mourning the death of Elvis.

Food for thought in this article!

www.radiotimes.com/news/tv/2018-06-26/our-girl-ben-aldridge-captain-james-interview/

PS: I bet Georgie is very, very glad she refused Bones' kind offer to share a bottle of whisky now!

shenanigans I'm guessing Fingers is back with Two Section possibly after failing selection for SF. That won't got down with Mr Angry will it!

I meant it won't go down well with Mr Angry or should that be Captain Angry or perhaps CA!

Interesting article Rhu, very interesting!

Thanks for the warm welcome all and thanks so much to the posters who recalled on the important conversation I missed. It was the first one, in the cave.

I started watching OG from series 2 and only recently watched series 1. I know that I am very, very likely in the minority, but I wasn’t convinced by the Molly/CJ storyline. I think Lane and CJ have more chemistry.

Please forgive me for this and let me stay on the thread .

The link makes interesting reading Rhubarb.

Ah, I see! Thanks. Till next week!

I think what's annoying me about the CJ and Georgie thing is the idea that he's really so emotionally unreliable - OK I appreciate that he's not in a good place mentally thanks to many factors but there's a pattern developing. First marriage failed, second marriage failing and he really thinks a relationship with Georgie would sort everything out because of a bond over Elvis. I know we're all guilty of being too precious about CJ and Molly but why does every relationship have to flounder? I'd like to have seen a story of two people fighting to keep their relationship together but we can't have that because there's no Molly. I can't stand these romantic round robin story lines. We are really getting into soapland here and it's a bit sad.

I enjoyed tonight’s episode much more than I expected to. Poor Ezra. Realised ‘that spoiler’ I stumbled across earlier had upset me as it looked as if things could only go one way. Think poor CJ confused and delirious - it was Molly’s name he said when he woke up and appeared upset that he seems to be losing her. I didn’t realise until yesterday that all 8 episodes were being shown together, so unless a considerable amount of time passes in the next 4 episodes (timescales have always been dubious so, plausible, I guess), I’m struggling to see how CJ can fit into the rest of the series. Maybe his choice to stay in will be taken from him. And yes, I too have always thought CJ and Georgie have a strange relationship.

Oh and why does CJ say Molly wants him to leave her? I can't believe I'm saying this, but why can't she leave him if that's the case OR is this just a symptom of his delirium as he's imagining that Molly wants to leave him.

Hold those thoughts Rhu, it has to be time for bed now. Back tomorrow afternoon probably. Night night.

I wondered that too Rhu and wonder if it’s just that he’s in such a bad place emotionally that he’s thinking she wants him to leave her and that he feels he has no control over what he thinks is happening and no fight left in him. And the “thing” with Georgie is maybe just because he feels drawn to her because of the bond with Elvis and that Molly isn’t there to support him so he sees Georgie as filling Molly’s role.

Well, thought about it again this morning and my conclusion is that CJ (putting aside any PTSD issues) is coming across as a weak character and frankly Georgie, knowing his history, would be bonkers to get involved with him.

IF, and it's a really big IF, there had never been the CJ/Molly story then I could have envisaged Georgie and CJ bonding over everything that happened and even felt some positivity towards it. However, in the light of the past events I just don't like the idea at all. I actually hope for Georgie's own sake more that she resists any temptation to go there.

As for Bones - please TG let there be some redeeming quality in his character because right now he's frankly unpleasant and I find nothing likeable about him at all.

Long time lurker delurking

When CJ was hallucinating and called Georgie Molly I did wonder if they were going to get a kiss into their story without it actually being about them!!

If OG does finish or CJ leaves I hope Lacey Turner makes a guest appearance and shows them going off happily into the sunset together

Now watched Ep 4 and agree with a lot of the comments on here. I don't think CJ is in love with Georgie, tho he obviously thinks the world of her! I think there is just a bond because of Elvis. He is obviously very upset about the situation at home and clearly doesn't want it to happen. He's sick and delirious and probably thinks he's going to die but it's Molly he keeps calling out for, so I think it's her that he loves. I think BA says in the RT interview that people want them to stay together but that this doesn't necessarily happen in shows because there's no drama. Well, there's not much drama anyway because you don't see Molly and LT is never going to return, even for a 2 minute cameo unfortunately, so why not just keep them together. If all you see is army life and not the home lives of 2 Section, you wouldn't see Molly anyway, cos her and CJ can't serve together.

I don't see how CJ can come back from this, even allowing for the leg, given the PTSD and the trail of disasters in his wake, so we'll have to see what TG has in store. Having had a lot more of CJ /BA for the last couple of weeks, I think I'm going to have to resign myself to a lot less, esp next week I like the thought of CJ having to rescue Bones, as teased by BA. I need to see the strong CJ back again. At least he still had the brains to remember the airfield and to signal it to SF this week, so he's not completely useless yet!

As for Bones, why did the Brig think it's a good idea to put Bones in charge of 2 Section, when anyone can see he's got serious issues and is clearly not suited to that role! And would this even happen anyway? yes, I know it's not RL!

Also, why take so long to get a helicopter to the airfield? They knew they were heading there so why not drop troops there to wait for and assist CJ and Georgie? sorry again, forgot there's no one else in the British Army but Bones to help out and he was already on the ground in the broccoli jungle

I'm assuming Fingers failed SF selection and that's why he's back? He didn't look too happy. Maybe Kingy should have a go. He was great with the SF, throwing smoke bombs and finding bullets
And Monk being loved up and being a dad

Pet theory one, you don’t call out for someone (Molly) unless you want it to be them who is with you. How much did I melt at those moments.

Pet theory two, she wants him to leave her because she can’t do it herself as it’s at attempt to have him get help.

Also, how awesome would it be if you got see his recover from PTSD with his wife. Not going to happen but how awesome.

Personally I enjoyed last night's episode far more than I expected. It's completely believable that someone like CJ would be suffering. I did find the references to Molly a bit annoying because I'd really like to see LT in a few scenes with CJ to show how their relationship has evolved.
I really like Bones. I don't really understand what he did wrong by killing 'los bandidos'.

Kazza and Bonnefoi I so agree with you both and love your scenarios. I too am sure it is still Molly he loves and what he feels for Georgie is all wrapped up in Elvis being his best friend, who is now lost to him plus the memory of how he was the one who had to go and tell her at that first failed wedding that E wasn't turning up, and then all that followed right up to his death, which he now blames himself for. Poor man he really is in mental turmoil.

What I think might be meant by Molly saying he should leave her could be her insecurities too as she always blamed herself for all that happened with them and perhaps thinks he would be more focused and alert without her and therefor his army career would not be in jeopardy. What a pair!

Harrumph! harrumph! harrumph! Yes, I know you are all concerned about CJ and about CJ/Molly, but all the flashbacks, and the bollocking from the Brig and the heart-to-hearts (or alternative spellings ), not to mention CJ banging on about Molly, Monk about his girlfriend, Kingy about his family, Brains about his, Maisie and Rab about theirs, all goes to prove that TG was just being bloody vindictive in killing off Elvis on the spurious excuse that it would be 'daft' to have him living on in parallel with the series.
Loved when Georgie admitted to dreaming about Elvis and that he wasn't dead - you and me both, dearie. Any minute now, he's going to walk out of the shower and you'll wake up from this nightmare.

Just thought of pet theory four. BA teased about tension between Bones and CJ in Radio Times article. What if CJ finally gets to Major and Bones is his subordinate. That could be an amusing wrinkle for drama purposes. Mind you with CJ’s less than stellar leadership skills recently, not seeing promotion on the horizon soon.

Really curious to see how CJ reappears in the Bangladesh episodes though.

I will happily ignore and CJ Georgie moments by revisiting Molly feverish moments in episode 4.

Just watched last night's episode and enjoyed it much more than I expected to. I thought much of it was believable.
CJ and his first wife separated because of the difference between being on tour & at home and I don't see why it would be any different with Molly. Didn't she say at some point in series one "you've only known me on tour" and he replied with something about an iceberg. I thought that was pretty naive at the time and think that even more now. Maybe he likes the falling in love but, maybe he likes being on tour and the clear hierarchy and finds civilian life difficult - plenty of people in the forces do. It's just annoying that he seems unable to work with a woman without falling in love with her and means that he puts his troops into riskier situations than they might otherwise have been in. As for him saying "she wants me to leave her", I don't think that is too far fetched. Maybe she doesn't want history to repeat itself so doesn't want to leave him but does want out. Also, bear in mind the difference in their ages and backgrounds. Not only does he come from a wealthy background but he will have been earning more & for longer than her, perhaps she can't leave him. There hasn't been a suggestion recently as to whether she is still supposed to be in the army or has given up and done another role so she is at home whenever he is.

Squidge that's a good insight. It makes it even more frustrating that we've never seen Molly again! I'd love to see them as a proper couple.

sqidge - v interesting. I know you're all more interested in CJ, but if you think back to series 2, we never saw Dr Dull and Georgie having FUN the way Elvis and Georgie did, and we all know the serious doubts we had about Dr Dull. The only time we hear CJ talk about his family at any length is in the shower scene with Elvis in Kenya and the delirium of fever in Belize. I'd guess that CJ is not very good at expressing his emotions - whether by training, by nature or by habit. Doesn't make him a bad person, but does make him difficult to 'read'. He may be like the man who loved his wife so much he almost told her!

Kind of gruesome watching CJ to drift in and out of counciousness and slowly succumbing to the infection. I bet he didn't actually want to tell Georgie all the details ... ! I have no idea if we will see him again (haven't read any RT or other articles).

Bones! What the heck! The moment the Brigadier asked for your regimental CO it would have been the perfect moment to shut up and stand at attention ... (meaning if a very senior officer threatens to have a Special Forces soldier returned to his original unit/kicked out of SF, the s* really has hit the fan).
Stupid man. Serves him right to be saddled with 2 Section! [devilgrin]

I do think, though, that Bones is a more believeable SF soldier than Elvis (sorry, ladies!). I just don't like him very much .

eejit I think it's probably CJ's upbringing and then conditioning at Sandhurst that makes him keep his private life and emotions private. It's probably not the done thing for a CO to discuss his life with his squaddies. He opened up to Molly, even when he knew it went against army regs and obviously he talked with Elvis because they're best friends anyway. In Series 1, I think it was implied that Smurf didn't know CJ was divorced.
Btw, what was that about when Bones said to Spanner about the cloud looking like a baby elephant? Was he taking the micky, was it a sign of how unhinged he is or is it meant to show a hitherto unknown warm and cuddly side?