XENIA...XENIA....I AM SHOUTING FOR YOU SO THAT YOU DONT MISS THIS PROGRAMME TONIGHT!

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It is so your sort of thing and I know you will love it.

CHANNEL 5 HIDDEN LIVES OBEDIENT WIVES

It is all about surrendered women who give up everything for their men and I thought you would enjoy it.

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he he, this is the one with my mate on it, lol. Should be good, I imagine the feathers will fly.

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really, sue ! have just set sky plus for it.....which one is your mate, so i can be prepared??

ooh what time is it on. I really want to see that.

I bet this is on the same time as 'Trapped by my identical twin'

bugger

it is the same time as the twin thing.

if we all watch it we could discuss tomorrow.

where is xenia?

lol total

Is there anything that isn't salacious on t'box these days??

what is the twin thing?

its about a set of identical twins who are unhealthily close, I saw a clip where they were eating off the same plate, and they had to check each mouthful they had was equal to each other. On channel 4 I think at 9pm.

Lulu, from what she said I think she's the only American on it. Her name is Crystal. She's got a little girl and another one on the way. She's a bit of a dynamo, tbh, got her own business and everything. Not your obvious stereotype. I've told her it likely won't come across well, specially not on a Channel 5 documentary, but she didn't really know who was doing it before hand.

It looks like it's mainly about 'surrendered wives', but that isn't what she subscribes to, so it's bit innaccurate. Looking foward to it, if only to see her little button girl. Gorgeous.

The twin thingy looks a bit creepy but I shall try and watch both!

XENIA!!!!!!

thanks very much !! will be watching with interest!

OOh fab, thanks, I love progs about weird Americans

hehe.. i've set a reminder on my mobile for this one

btw.. chances are that the twins one will be on 4od on the c4 website prolly tomorrow

Set sky+ to record both.

Should be interesting, I could never be a wife like that.

can someone tape either of these and send me a copy? or if they've got media centre send it it me at tobys_mummy at btinternet dot com

NOW

Excuse me, is it Gene Hunt on voiceover?

Yes, Gene Hunt. Great follow-on from his chauvinist role in Life on Mars! As usual in these sorts of progs they had really extreme people on. I've yet to get over the American woman telling her daughter daddy was king of their home etc etc and the Geordie with the Thai bride was an example of nothing other than economic disparity between GB and Thailand.

The point about trying to find a way to reduce marital tensions and power struggles (which, I presume, is the purpose of 'The Surrendered Wife'???)was never going to be made in a programme which opened with the wife washing her layabout husband's back, in the bath, like he's four years old. Yuck!

I wonder if Xenia was one of these women!

did anyone watch it?

I did

me too.