Made in Chelsea’s back

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With a cameo from Toffs jungle camp mate Stanley! I know I shouldn’t watch this, I’m well aware I’m not the target audience, but I find it strangely compelling.....
Found tonight’s episode as infuriating as always - why on earth has little fat Fonz decided he needs to be in London to paint, and when did Tiny Tears get her lips done?

The Ryman is a fucking lunatic

The way he spoke to Liv in the club 😱😱😱😱😱

Tristan's personality could be more...developed. He has yet to show wit or charisma. Niceness is not a highly rated quality in Chelsea, as we know!

Sam has clearly been annoying - but he is, at least, entertaining.

He'll be like Jamie, he'll settle down once he's grown up and met the right girl. He'll turn out all right in the end...

The end may be a long, long way off though!

Am watching last weeks btw

Liv is so awful is savage. I don't think much of Ryan but at least he stands up for himself.

Is Melissa loaded and Harry a cocklodger?

Sameh is about as entertaining as syphilis.

He won't come good in the end. He will always be a self indulgent, entitled, philandering arsehole.

I don't think we will need an infographic for that...

Although I could do a link for syphilis....

Oh, I hope not, Sheldonesque! I think you forget just how staggeringly fickle Jamie was at Sam's age! He went wherever the wind blew, so it seemed!

Even lothario Spencer Matthews has managed to rein himself in!

But on to more pressing matters... Do you think Libbey should have held his ground about the Liv/Louise photography ambush, or has he done the mature thing by apologising?

I’ve been listening to Jamie and Francis’s podcast this week. Some of them are absolutely hilarious . I’ve been walking the dog and having to put my hand over my face so people wouldn’t see me bursting out laughing randomly like some lunatic.

Yes, Carol - the Private Parts podcast is AMAZING..! I recommend it to everyone! They took it on tour in Oct /Nov as I'm sure you know: anidolmind.com/the-naked-truth-about-jamie-laings-private-parts/

My favourite podcast is the one with Caggie Dunlop - the humour and revelations are brilliant. Had no idea Jamie and her once had a thing until I listened to it:

My LEAST favourite was the one with Joe Thomas from The Inbetweeners. I thought they'd all get on like a house on fire, given it was such a funny comedy series, but Joe didn't even look at them the whole time! It was #awkward to watch!!

I really think in ten years time we'll be shocked by how well Jamie Laing is doing. Make that five years. He's driven, funny and very good with people. He'll outlast all the rest.

See I have only been listening, not watching and I thought the Joe Thomas one was really funny. Haven’t listened to Caggie’s yet, I might today. Absolutely loved the one with Tom Lucy, I hadn’t even heard of him before and Spencer’s was good too. Also I think they were really good with Dr Alex from Love Island; some good messsges in there. I struggled with Sam’s because I dislike him so much.

I agree about Jamie being a break out big star from this. He’s really grown on me. He finds the humour in anything, which is quite a skill.

Just watched last night's. What a blinder of an episode! The men all seem to have plummeted down an emotional helterskelter, all the mudslinging, schoolyard sniping and references of 'little bitches' (highlight: 'you're homeless!'), Myt with his big old trusty wooden spoon and Ryman's tangible physical agony at having to apologise to Liv, Miles giving it some welly on the dance floor 🤣

Oh and Jamie's new hur is coming on a treat.

I can't stand miles

Jamie wasn't a bit arsed that he's upset sammeh

I love that Jamie is so human - he never minds people taking the p*ss out of him. If it's entertaining / funny he's always up for it.

He even told everyone about his hair plugs - a thing that SO MANY famous men do, and never admit to, despite their hairlines moving so suspiciously.

I'm not sure I'd manage to be as down to earth as Jamie if I was born with a silver spoon in my mouth.

And he used to drive me mad about the way he was with women on MiC, declaring his love and then getting cold feet - and how he and Spencer used to compete for the same women. SO, I'm putting it out there - I think Sam's going to be Jamie Number 2.

I know he's being beyond annoying right now - and I don't think he'll do as well as Jamie - but he's got a funny / cheeky / irreverent side that will definitely find an outlet.

Whereas, someone like the handsome Miles will likely be forgotten as soon as his looks fade. He's probably a nice chap (so what if he sleeps around - he's single / so what if he bitches a bit - they ALL do), but he hasn't ADDED anything special to the mix.

I want to see stronger characters on MiC, and like her or loathe her, at least Liv has a bit about her!

Sameh has no appeal whatsoever. Nobody likes someone who is supposedly a grown up acting like they are 12. He is desperately irritating and the handshake pull away was puerile. MamaT must be so proud. The only outlet suitable for Sameh would be a sewer. In amongst the other shits.

I do believe I can recall how awful Jamie was. However Sameh is in another league. Jamie may have been fickle.. Sameh gets where only smells can go.

I wonder if when Liv rolls her eyes it sets off something in her hair follicles. Roll the eyes and her hair grows a mm to show even more root or deposits a week's worth of grease. It is like a skanky Girl's World head.

I'd be getting out the bleach for Myles. What a filthy mink. Chuck him out girlies.

Frau Arschloch and Fingers next week. Yawn.

Miles may be filthy, but probably no worse Spencer and Mytton were...I remember how thrilled Binks was to learn about that orgy of theirs.

The most annoying thing about Mytton was the "black out" claim. How can a man have sex while blacked out? And remember nothing?! Why do these men choose to have serious relationships and cheat? Be like Miles and cheat on no one!

I'll also never understand why people are so obsessed with Liv's hair! I think it's kind of punky, which goes with her "What?" attitude.

I also like that she doesn't change it, no matter how much people give her a hard time about it. I'd be the same.

I care not that Miles is on the nest with all and sundry but it is rank to screw in a friend's bed without at least asking. Him and his little foppish pal were fine to leave their mess for the girls to clean up. That is the filth to which I refer.

If by people you mean me re the obsession with Liv's hair then I have to disappoint you. I am not obsessed. It was merely an observation and I can't understand why anyone would choose to look as though they needed a trip to the shower. More so when they could probably afford to have it 'done' a couple of times a week. You say punky - I say mess. Punks took pride in their hair. Liv does not.

A 'what?' attitude isn't something I aspire to. It suggests that they feel superior to others. She comes across as rude. entitled, supercilious and dismissive. I don't like that. She is not all that and a bag of chips.

I understand Thruppenny keeping the peace and saying he was sorry for not attending the engagement photo shoot. I am pretty sure he didn't say sorry for what he said. And nor should he. For he was right.

"She is not all that and a bag of chips." is now the quote of the day.

Yes, I know Liv comes across as rude and arrogant, but I choose to see her as very forthright /a straight shooter. I suspect she's just been brought up to be very direct - for example, consider how much her parents talk to her about sex - I suspect that she just doesn't know any other way to be.

"I think you love me more than I love you" is so much more honest than the usual: "It's not you, it's me line." She's not entitled so much as direct. There's absolutely no sugar-coating of anything she says.

A parallel you could draw is that of Lucy Watson, who got a reputation as someone arrogant and rude when she first joined the series, but turned out to be a really interesting / unique character. A very honest and loyal friend, someone slightly awkward and proud, with a big heart - who had simply put up a wall because she'd been hurt in the past.

In fact, Lucy ended up being one of the stand out characters on MiC.

A green flag I notice about Liv is that she's incredibly popular with the other cast mates, despite all that back and forth with Diggers. Literally everyone from Melissa, Habbs, Harry and Jamie are all on her side - Sam and Louise are caught in the middle but both consider her a really good friend.

That suggests that she's got something about her that may not be immediately obvious. Hidden depths!

There's nothing prissy about Liv. I like the fact that she hangs out with the boys - has fun going out drinking with the Myttons and Sams of this world, WITHOUT wasting her time falling in love with them.

A lot of the other girls will sit around complaining about boys who are CLEARLY players, yet these girls still want to have a relationship with them!

Liv has some common sense.

And imagine if everyone was like the (admittedly lovely) Melissa! What an uneventful show it would be! Liv is a more complex character - isn't that what we want?!

And if you think people aren't obsessed with Liv's hair, then you're lucky to have missed out on a whole lot of talk about tresses. It wears on you after a while and I admire her for not giving in to the pressure to change.

Liv is not complex. Just rude. Nothing prissy or forthright. Just rude. My colleague is forthright. We all accept it. She is never rude. She doesn't roll her eyes or try to squeeze out a tear when called on something. Liv on the other hand...

Given that Harry, Sam, Louise and others you mention are given to arseholery too, then their glowing endorsements of Liv mean nowt to me.

I adored Lucy. She was forthright and not caught up in the self indulgent shite that Liv is. Liv is just more irritating with each episode. And the only wall she has is a platform to shout me me me from. Folk who keep coming across as rude and arrogant generally are.

I have seen comments about Liv' hair. Not obsessive. Just saying it is a mess. Which it is.

The one where one should take the blinkers off.

I'm still chuckling at Liv supposedly having common sense.

And actually I would like to see nice people on telly. Would it be a bit dull? Maybe. But far more interesting and real than the contrived shite we are enduring now. The behaviour portrayed in the likes of MIC and Towie makes me despair. The way they treat each other is shocking.

But I don't think I'd WATCH MiC if I hated the vast majority of the characters on it...

I like the vast majority of them. They all play a role.

Jamie is a fantastic troublemaker. Habbs is lovely albeit naive. Ditto Melissa, Sam is the entertainment / court jester, Liv is the firecracker, Mark-Francis and Victoria are the wry onlookers, Mytton is the cauldron stirrer, Binks is lovely - (why didn't she stick around?), Fred is funny and hot (why didn't he stick around?), Louise is the reigning queen - I could go on but I'll spare you!

Admittedly, Tristan isn't doing a lot for me but perhaps he'll develop over time.

Liv DOES have commonsense - consider how the other females have reacted to cheating (taking their men back). Yet, at the first whiff that Fred was merely flirting with Mimi, Liv was done. And when she had a one-nighter with Mytton she took it for what it was - there was no romantic stuff because she knew what he was like.

Common sense right there!

We'll never agree!

I don't mind Liv I have to say. I think she's a very resilient young woman who was very well loved growing up and has never really had anything that bad happen to her. I have noticed in RL that people like this don't tend to see the impact of their actions and just drift through life blissfully unaware. I think she's actually very emotionally healthy in that she sheds what isn't working for her straight away and has absolutely no co-dependency issues whatsoever in her relationships. It's going to take her falling properly in love and not having it reciprocated for her to understand. Much as I hate him maybe she did need the telling off from Ry "The Hulk" Man.

Liv was totally in love with Mytton at one point. She'd go out with him in a heartbeat but he let her down gently.

Love Lucy Watson.

If TT is the reigning queen then that is a brilliant reason to want a republic.

There isn't a good spread of characters. They are either vapid and drippy or arseholes.

Only Sameh thinks he is funny. A court jester is meant to amuse everyone. I'd probably find it a hoot if I were 11. Binky was not lovely. The way she treated some of her friends was appalling. I can't see how Biscuits is fantastic. Troublemaking is not the behaviour of a friend.

Liv isn't displaying common sense. More like acting like one of the lads. Which is fine but not an exhibition of common sense. Fred and Mimi? I think she was right in binning him off but it was more to do with not being prepared to share/for it all not to be about her.

Common sense would have been not going near a chap like Mytt in the first place.

Tristan did at least come across as a decent chap.

Only MF and Sticky remain true to themselves/their characters. And as such have been the only entertaining ones this series.

Well, them and the cat.