Celeb Big Brother Thread 11 - New product in the PWB shop! "Andrew's Guide to Treating Women with Respect"

[AnneEyhtMeyer]

I got them cheap. Ideal gift for Valentine's Day or Mother's Day.

Amanda was brilliant so wise and perceptive,the wisdom of age and all that. I can see her and Ann continuing their friendship outside the house it looks very real and genuine between them.

I get what Amanda was saying.

My DM and i have opposing views on abortion and when i was younger we used to disagree and argue about it.............now i dont bring it up and when she does i zone out.

I love my mum She was brought up in a different country with different values As ive got older ive learnt to be more accepting and realizing she has a different view.

This has come with age and experience.

Shane J isnt there yet Thats all.

Love that we are seeing much more of the interesting personalities now that the ladz have gone. So much time wasted on them.

Amanda Amanda Amanda

Don't entirely understand the love for Ann on here. Can see that she may have mellowed a tad over the last 3 weeks but ultimately she is not somebody I would want in my living room. Her feminist role models are Margaret Thatcher and Mother Theresa.

Probably been a guest speaker at the Presidents Club.

IMHO I think the point Amanda was alluding to, by raising the wardrobe malfunction episode with Shane, was that he did it deliberately for camera and air time.
Similarly, his constant pontificating and attempts to stir up others to challenge and dislike Ann, are also a means to the same end.

If she did speak at the presidents club she probably wouldn’t take a fee for it like David Walliams has done for the past two years. It’s supposed to be for charity.

Rosebz what’s your beef with Mother Theresa? Xxx

Sorry accidental kisses it’s past my bedtime

I think Shane J is getting a bit of a hard time.

Thought he was probably feeling a bit lost without the knob that'd become his friend in the house.
Ann has questioned his behaviour enough times that he probably does think it's due to his sexuality. He's probably had a fair amount of criticism in his life for his sexuality and his drag act.
Didn't he mention something about Ann's comments being likened to the disapproval a gay boy suffers from his mother (or am I tipsy and recalling that incorrectly?)
Then got a letter from his sister specifically mentioning the LGBTI community.

Think it was an all round shit day for him and he was seeking someone to support him while he had his head up his arse a bit.

Probably pretty easy for your head to get all twisted in the house over things that maybe you wouldn't ordinarily.
Turning to a fellow gay man likely seemed an obvious avenue to seek support.

I think he's just a young man looking for some support whereas Amanda and Wayne are older, more confident about themselves and their sexuality, feel less threatened by Ann's personal viewpoints and political/religious stance.

I think as much as Shane J sees himself as an educator and representative of his community (and he is pretty good at that) he also has life lessons to learn.
For example, I'll bet RuPaul would be able to handle being in his position and would get along fine with the older 3 housemates simply due to being more mature and having more life experience

Shoutney is very sly going to have discussions one on one or sometimes one in two, he has being doing it all the way thru

IMHO Amanda and Wayne were absolutely fab tonight

They both probably remember (or as in recent past iyswim) when being gay was illegal in uk, then how horrible it was thru 80s and into 90s with AIDS and being gay was very frowned upon cos they caused this horrible disease etc etc (obviously we know more about it now but back then totally different story) those tomb stones adverts on TV and posters everywhere

There are lots of LGBT who don't want to marry, in public eye Christopher biggins is very vocal about not agreeing with gay marriage but has a civil partnership

Shoutney is just a silly juvenile (well mid 30s) who comes from AUS and they have only just in last few months allowed gay marriage (not sure if you were allowed civil partnership before) so the poor little lamb is transferring his frustration onto Ann.

I loved Amanda calling him out on his "wardrobe malfunction" that was so deliberate it was silly. Totally agree that drag queens would not do that by accident as they are so professional

GO AMANDA.

The ultimate example of we can disagree on issues and get on and rightly spotted SJ as a GF from the offset but pushed it to one side until the GF came after her friend.

Sorry watched on +1 and will now catch up on thread!

Ann would definitely take a fee to host the presidents club, she's negotiated the highest fee of all the housemates this year

Gosh.
Took me such a long time to read thread and write my comment that I hadn't realised an hour had passed!
Last post I read was at 11pm.

Am normally quite a fast typer.

Note to self:wine and mumsnet aren't the best mix!!!

Loved Amanda tonight. I know it's all down to editing, but completely gone off Shane J. He seemed to argue his point so reasonably at the beginning but now he is just trying to bitch about Ann all the time.

Shourtney is 35 and a reality tv pro. He is not some innocent little naive victim. He's been stirring from day one. He hid behind Andrew, feeding him the bullets and sitting back and watching him fire them. Now his puppet has gone he's been having to do his dirty work himself.

Amanda has seen his little games for a while - on the first night his obvious "wardrobe malfunction" display, his constant public digs at Ann, and the time he sat there whispering into her ear telling her that Jess was scared of Ann. Tonight was when she stopped ignoring it and put him back in his place.

From Ashley's matter-of-fact rebuttal of his stirring you can tell she's heard it all before too.

I thought Amanda didn't like the lesbian label because she is bisexual? She is totally at ease with her sexuality.

Sinister Ann would never do something like the President's Club because she would not view the lewd behaviour as acceptable. She would also never be invited because she isn't the type of woman the old pervs would want to ogle.

Anne I probably put it wrong I was sort of being sarcastic about this whinny weasel

But totally agree with your description

I'm feeling a bit sorry for Widdi. If she was devout Muslim or Jewish no one would hold her feet to the fire about her views when she has explained her beliefs.

That is so true @Fannywisdom, any other religion, no way would anyone dare ridicule it. It's an appalling injustice that it's apparently fine to tear Catholicism to shreds but no other religion, wonder why that is.

Well played, Amanda!

Shane J and Malika seem to be constantly criticising Anne for no reason, and looking to add members to their little coven.

Shane failed spectacularly with Wayne, trying to stir him up to attack Anne, and then ran into Amanda who very gently destroyed his pathetic platform, refusing to accept his bull shit.

Amanda for the win. Shane J and Malika joint last please!

This has come with age and experience.*

Shane J isnt there yet Thats all

This. I don't think Shane J is a bad person, he has ideals and although isn't "young" young he is still at that soapboxy arrogant stage of life where you place huge significance on someone's political beliefs. I sympathise cos I am prone to doing the same but then my mum has some very dodgy views but I love her with all my heart so I know it doesn't mean you can get along with someone. Life is more complicated than that. Shane probably feels like he would be betraying his lgbt allies if he doesn't pull Anne up on her voting record but Wayne is right, what's the bloody point? What's it going to do? What's it going to prove? I feel a bit sorry for Shane that he can't just chill and enjoy being in the show.

Love Amanda too.

I still don't get the love on here for Anne, and all the eye rolling at the merest mention of nudity or whatever would do my head in if I was in there I think. But there is also something quite vulnerable about her. Agh it's weird!

In an ideal world of course everybody would get on with everyone else and - take people as we find them - and judge for ouselves etc etc.

Some people bring a lot of baggage, Ann, Jim Davidson, Ron Atkinson, etc etc and lots of people can't go, yeah well, you know, Nick Griffin, or Enoch Powell, they were lovely people in person, if you got to know them.

Some people, like Ann, have lived public lives spent telling other people how to live, politicians in government telling people how they are permitted to live by creating legislation.

Not unreasonably, some people have been affetced by that and aren't able to go = it's all water under the bridge, I know you didn't mean it - when you actually meant all of it.

Amanda - I'm in a civil partnership - you're not in a civil partnership.

A status, Amanda, that Ann would never in government have allowed you to have, and that you also wouldn't have been allowed to have if Gay Rights activists like Shane hadn't come out and campaigned so that you can have it while you were happily in the closet, they were being abused and queer-bashed on your behalf - still you don't need that sort of thing - dope.

Forgetting is what allows it all to happen again.

Oh you’re back futuristic

Ann would never in government have allowed you to have

I am misremembering a time when Anne Widdecombe was the head of a dictatorship in this country?

I do wonder what the motivation is for Anne to do all these reality shows that she does. Is it just the money?

I think she probably gets bored. She has animal charities and religion. She does a lot of charitable work. She doesn't watch much telly. I reckon she just looks for new experiences.