Celeb Big Brother Thread 9 - For the love of parmesan, stop messing with the noms!!

[AnneEyhtMeyer]

We just want normal noms and no BB interference.

And shopping lists and good tasks.

You always put things so well Enrique

"ann doesn't matter"

You could say similar about Jess I think. Glamour model/ex on the beach = shenanigans in the house? Did BB imagine that she'd be all over the lads in the hot tub like a Labrador on chips? I think BB has got it all wrong....

It's really hard to reason with people who proclaim 'I think it is abundantly clear in the scripture that God has created us with different roles' Doesn't sound like he has any time at all for feminism does it (dry humour)

Aaw thanks Sheldon

The thing I enjoy about BB is the fathoming of people. It doesn't matter if they appeal to me or not. I'm attracted to the original premise of the show. It's one of the reasons I like the small moments and the quiet and off the wall conversations. I enjoyed the bathroom scene with Amanda speaking about her early recollections of the war, being taken up into the hills by her Grandfather and seeing Manchester burn and everyone listening to her.

I read back on A Widdy's response to the shackling of labouring women in prison, a practise that still hasn't been outlawed and which is still also on statute books around the world. Apparently her decision was based on the fact that the women are imprisoned and the potential is there for them to escape, but that she firmly believed they would have better care in a hospital (with shackling) then in prison unshackled. Same as her stance on working mothers, that if you have children, it should be natural to want to spend all your time with them. That probably goes hand in hand with her brother's ideas above.

I don't agree with her opinions and decisions and I don't think she's in tune with real people's emotions and experiences, but I understand how she goes through her thought process, or I think I do. Everything is quite straightforward and clear cut to her e.g. marriage is one man and one woman, who conceive children through natural means and one works and the other stays home to care for them all. Simples.
Any deviation from that is way out of her comfort zone, but she does have gay friends and seems to get along very well with Amanda. I expect she boxes off their sexuality and doesn't give it any thought at all.

It's quite noticeable as well that where she was out of step with her party was on the issue of fox hunting and that she's been quite active in supporting animal charities.

Thank you for being curious and digging about the T'nternet Enrique that was really interesting but "Ann doesn't matter"

Have to catch up. Had to interact with the real world last night, dammit!

I'm with you en

I love watching people interact. I am a confirmed people watcher and BB was and is fascinating to me. I love to see how people make friends or what little foibles give folk the rage. How backstabbing and bitching can alienate individuals. How love grows. I love hearing about little life experiences that are not hugely important in the big scheme of things but they somehow show the essence of a person.

I wrote above that my closest friends are male. In reality I'm not sure that is true because they are probably not friend in the true meaning of the word but are the people I am most friendly with.

I get people very wrong sometimes. I think BB has done the same this time round. I would wager things aren't going the way they intended.

Speaking on a very personal level, in my youth I always hang out in men’s company. I found a group of women mainly bitchy. I couldn’t be bothered with it. Men are much easier to rub along with . Now at work I hang out with both equally but in general in a work environment I find men easier

Regarding not seeing Maggs talk about Rochdale. I am sorry but I think it is an incredibly hot potato. Do you really think B.B. are going to show convos about grooming by gangs of Muslim men ? Maybe I am being nieve but I don’t think they would risk it

And could someone enlighten me regarding Maggies leg, how did I miss this ? Is it a scab?

Totally agree told - the essays definitely come from somewhere else.

I think BB booked Rachel hoping for Boris and Jess hoping for tits.

I went to school in an exclusively female environment and now work in a totally male environment. Men can be as bitchy as women, and are definitely more infantile but the one thing I've noticed is that the men seem to accept differences of opinions without it being the end of a friendship / the world. They are much more laid back, probably because they feel more certain of themselves. They don't tend to attack each other in the same way women do.

I wouldn't want any talk of Rochdale because children were abused over and over again I dont think BB is a place to talk about that. I understand maggie walked out of her job partly because of the dreadful handling of one of the children but I wouldn't expect her to talk about it was Maggie expecting discussions about it ?

Agree Chip - they are terrified of causing an outrage in the same way they silenced criticism of IW.

Urgh i meant how one of the girls were treated by the court police and media

They obviously never showed Maggie because I have never noticed her leg. Was it a cut?

Interesting Enrique. Thank you.

That's very interesting En. Shows how we are only given half the story.

I noticed some kind of lesion on the front of Maggie's lower leg, like an abcess or something? but I can't find any images now.

I didn't expect her to talk about the Rochdale enquiry, but she did mention the girls when she went in and said she'd written them all a letter each to receive after she'd gone in the house. I thought maybe she could've been shown talking about the impact of being brought so much to public attention through her work, that she was asked to participate in something like this show.

I slightly misquoted Ann doesn't matter. Here's the piece and context. It pretty much amounts to the same thing though and demonstrates how little regard her mother had for Ann's tight controls
'As in When Louis Met the Hamiltons, the real star of the show is the mother. Rita, 90, almost lets Theroux into their boudoir on the cruise liner. When he asks whether it's OK with her daughter, Rita announces: "It doesn't matter about Ann." (Widdecombe Jr wades in to stop the invasion.) But more entertaining still is when Rita starts reciting a poem to Theroux that she has made up about Kate, the director/producer. Widdecombe tries to silence her, but Rita continues in pantomime hushed tones, every time Widdecombe looks away.'
At the beginning of the documentary AW had been it very clear that she wouldn't discuss sex or her personal status and wouldn't allow Theroux or the crew upstairs at home as that was private space and no visitors were ever permitted there, not even friends.

Someone on Digital Spy said Ann has a private bathroom in the house, but I haven't seen mention anywhere else.

I’m marking whilst I’m stood in the chip shop queue

What you getting each?

Just on the issue of Ann's personality having been formed by her career. There are lots of female politicians who were elected before her who are still firmly feminist in their outlooks, whilst also being able to put forward their opinions without being concerned about upsetting people. As a politician you have to be robust in your style or you'll get squished. Ann is no different to most in that respect.

Just to get something else out there. I've been pondering on Ann and 'Kindness' or Unkindess.

I didn't particularly laugh at the simulated labour task, but especially in the Year of the Woman, I thought it was a good task if only a teeny weeny snapshot of what woman go through not only in labour but with period problems as well.

Daniel, Ginuwine, John and Shane are all fathers, so I think it was a good idea for them to have a flavour of what their ahem Baby Mammas have been through, albeit they did a few minutes not a few hours. A good idea to try and educate Andrew and Jonny, lads about town too. That's how I perceived it, as educational and not an act of torture

The other thing my research brought me to was that Ann isn't a pacifist. She voted for the Iraq War on the basis that it would help more people than it killed, maimed or bereaved and although she's anti abortion, she wouldn't oppose it if the mother's life was in danger.
I'd be surprised if that acceptance extended itself to mental health issues though, that's just a personal opinion.

I also found out that she doesn't cry and doesn't believe in crying, so I suspect she's indoctrinated by the put up and shut up school of thought where you have to get on with things as demonstrated by her displeasure at Maggie cuddling and comforting Jess. I can't work out how she squares these beliefs with her deeply held religious views.

I don't think she'd even consider any other side of the coin because she'll have thought it through, decided and justified that decision and that's end of. I would imagine most people find these kind of issues much more complex. I've cried this week and it wasn't even over anything that affected me, my loved ones or anyone I know. I suspect AW would think that was foolish and a waste of energy

Hellooo

I was really glad when Maggie went in but the more I think about it the more I think she shouldn't have gone in. If I were one of the victims I'd be pretty pissed off that the police officer used my misery to earn money or become a celeb. I'd also have been constantly worried she'd talk about me on telly.

Maggie didn’t say she was expecting discussions on Rochdale, just expressed her surprise that AW as a former prominent politician hadn’t even raised the issue with her at any point, the discussions wouldn’t have had to be televised, they could have been only between AW and Maggie, but it was the fact that AW showed no interest that Maggie was pointing out

Quite Ann

The subject should not be silenced but slebBB is not the place.

If the house had been full of people who had done various things for the good of humanity maybe.. The conversations would have been enlightening and thought provoking.

In a house full of celebrities? No. Not the place or the company. As was said, given that they are getting so full of angst re the portrayal of IW, they would not want Maggie's story broadcast.

So instead we are subjected to the musings of the sage that is Dapper.