Celeb Big Bro Thread 2 - Courtney's audition for the Bucks Fizz tribute act wasn't quite what they were looking for...

[AnneEyhtMeyer]

Yes, I know it is a shock to discover CBB celebrities famous for something other than being on other reality shows, but there are some in the house this year! It is a miracle!

Still no shopping lists, decent long-lasting tasks and lack of BB interference but we can't have everything can we?

PWBs - pull up a chair (from your favourite Oak furniture dealer), grab your snacks and get stuck in!

I'm sure dealing with sex crimes against women and girls would make someone particularly dubious of the idea of it being possible to identify into or out of biology...

Fan of Courtney first saw her on that mtv programme - SingleAF - and her intelligence stood out massively. Which is obvs a touchstone on this CBB with India.

Malika is great. Might have a mini- crush on JB. Dapper is still a twat.

Looking at India last night i realised that he actually looks nothing even remotely like a woman. I don't know what he sees in the mirror, but if he thinks the makeup, wig, fake boobs make him look feminine he needs to get his eyes tested. It's just a very manly face, unlike Courtney who looks stunnning as Courtney. India needs to get used to people who will refer to him as "her" only after having to remind themselves, it won't come natural because "he" does not look,act or speak anything like a woman, and calling someone transphobic if they do is ridiculous.

It's not a wig - if it was the male pattern baldness might be a little less obvious...

At the beginning of last night I initially thought Maggie was referring to India as ‘he’ because of the editing, but then thought it became clear she was talking about U and his reaction to India’s advance for a kiss.

I think Maggie is going to find it increasingly hard to tolerate India. She's had a whole career dealing with Cluster B personalities both as con's and as colleges, she won't be able to continually keep it on the down low.

I too thought RJ is being underhand with Ann. It's the "wind them up and set them off, then sit back and enjoy the carnage" game - she sure is a Johnson, through and through.

Little bit in love with the two Shane's, JB and Andrew.

I'm sure dealing with sex crimes against women and girls would make someone particularly dubious of the idea of it being possible to identify into or out of biology...

Yes, quite.

Ah maybe Maggie was referring to Ginuwine then, I did think the relaxed 'misgendering' was a bit strange and Jess didnt even flinch, but I really thought she was referring to India.

RJ isn't necessarily coming across negatively to me for the "wind em up and set em off", it just seems like she is interviewing more than having a conversation. I imagine being a journalist it's hard to turn it off?

it just seems like she is interviewing more than having a conversation - yeah maybe, but she keeps introducing topics of controversy when talking specifically to Ann. As far as we've seen, she hasn't grilled anybody else on their views on homosexuality. If it is just her journo instinct at play, why isn't she doing it with anybody else?

She clearly doesn't like Ann, which is fine but deliberately trying to trip someone up is underhand.

She was trying to trip Ann up with the 1967/68 thing either, but Ann stood her ground!

I'd guess, being sister of bojo, she probably knows more about Ann's existing views so is 'interviewing' around that. But yes, of course she could be just trying to trip her up

Was slightly at Ann being so horrified at people having pain and misery inflicted on them given she is a massive lifelong Tory!!! Maybe it's only when she has to watch it close up that she doesn't like it.

Yes Ann went a bit over the top with being horrified at the pain. Wonder how horrified she is about people going hungry, sleeping on the streets etc, many because of draconian tory policies.

Don't worry hair and best - I'm sure Rachel will bring it up in the next few days

Didn't she once when she was prisons minister back the governments policy in keeping women prisoners in chains when they were giving birth. Not much compassion there then.

best

I couldn't find anything on that in particular, but this is interesting...
www.publicwhip.org.uk/mp.php?id=uk.org.publicwhip/member/1701&showall=yes#divisions

www.independent.co.uk/news/pregnant-prisoner-tells-of-her-ordeal-in-chains-1262477.html
Here we are

After IW and C/S talked, and IW hugged C/S, IW walked off. Courtney/Shane muttered under his breath. Did he say, cue one week and India and Courtney are throwing white wine over each other?

Looking at India last night i realised that he actually looks nothing even remotely like a woman. I don't know what he sees in the mirror, but if he thinks the makeup, wig, fake boobs make him look feminine he needs to get his eyes tested. It's just a very manly face, unlike Courtney who looks stunnning as Courtney. India needs to get used to people who will refer to him as "her" only after having to remind themselves, it won't come natural because "he" does not look,act or speak anything like a woman, and calling someone transphobic if they do is ridiculous.

Same here. India does not look like a woman.
Courtney/ Shane - I love! What a sweetheart.

I love JB too, such a lovely guy.

After IW and C/S talked, and IW hugged C/S, IW walked off. Courtney/Shane muttered under his breath. Did he say, cue one week and India and Courtney are throwing white wine over each other? grin

Yes, loved that. C/S sees through India all right.

Just marking place

I wasn't going to watch, but dd has persuaded me, so I saw last night, thought I'd start with this thread, and then go to youtube to catch up.

MN are deleting posts which are reported, I suspect. Someone is going down the thread and reporting as much as possible.

I loved Courtney last night - he is absolute evidence that men can be "feminine", that they can do the dress/makeup/heels fannying around that most women don't do (but that men think they do, if that makes sense) but still be a man. Just like boys should be able to wear princess dresses and play with barbies, but still be boys.

I do hope he doesn't do a Sam Smyth in a year or so and announce that he is, in fact, a woman.

Oh, I missed a whole lot of posts.

I think BoreOfWhabylon has a point - if there is too much "mis-gendering" (even if it's perfectly understandable and factually correct), the thread will end up derailed or deleted which would be a shame.

Beauty comes from within, Courtney is a lovely person and it's irrelevant whether he's Courtney or Shane, you can't be lovely if you're not lovely on the inside. The same can't be said for India.

Would like to have clarity on the deletions. I’ll bet they reported many more than were deleted though. Can’t have everything fellas...

I agree with Ann re pain. Just weird. Also liked her and ShaneW having a discussion sans shouting and sneering. Shourtney to win!

As if Maggie is remotely fucking interested in following that scrote around. I think it is good Malika tried to get IW to stop whining ‘victim’ but far too subtle for his tiny, tiny brain.

Daniel is pondscum. Just get him out.

Also marking place I have been drawn in the last few nights I am enjoying it so far IW is a total pain in the arse paradoid defensive and insecure . I am liking Ann (suprisingly) malika the shanes and John Barnes. I dont know who that comedian is but he is a creepy fecker reminds me of that slimey footballer who was in last year his name escapes me .