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Mc Mafia?

488 replies

Clawdy · 01/01/2018 22:18

Anyone watched it? Well acted and gripping, James Norton good as usual. Also nice change to see so many new faces. But I'm not sure about watching seven more episodes........

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recall · 23/01/2018 14:10

I gave up ...James Norton's performance is terrible ....just walks around looking smarmy ...boring !!!!!

MsHarry · 23/01/2018 15:07

Why is JN going about his business in Tel Aviv so cooly? People are being shot, raped and bludgeoned and he acts like he has no care or fear for his own safety. I knew that poor guy would be shot. What hadn't they parked closer or got him out the back way, they must've known he was at risk after telling the police!!! Grrrr

MissEliza · 23/01/2018 16:53

JN's acting is a bit wooden considering his character is quite a complicated person really

HoldMeCloserTonyDanza · 23/01/2018 18:20

In the first episode, Uncle Boris kept telling JN about how "British" he was when he (JN) was giving Boris the poker face. But I don't think the wooden poker face is supposed to be British - I think it's meant to be a product of the years of bullying at boarding school.

(I think the two key things which were supposed to reveal why JN is the way he is were his interactions with Uncle Boris, who represents Russia/traditional gangsters/his roots, and with his awful smarmy "friend" who offered him such brutal terms to save his company - reminding JN that however hard he pretends to fit in in London, to most people he will never be anything but "Godman" the Yid.)

I think the character has been slightly over-manufactured, in that he is supposed to demonstrate to us the dreadful alliance of traditional gangster networks + Panama Papers-style City money laundering that comprises modern crime networks. I don't mind this, because I think it's a good way for a drama to tell that story, and I have a soft spot for the buttoned-up/childhood trauma aspect (and this is a reasonably new way to approach it - we've seen so many gangsters along the lines of Tony Soprano who are messed up because of terrible parents, I like the angle that he's messed up not because of his parents, who both love him very much and did the best they could for him, but because of the boarding school + culture shock).

But I can see why people just don't like watching it (we have seen it before tbf). And I can also see it stretching credulity a bit, as while real people like Alex Godman do exist, they are way more likely to be living the Made In Chelsea life like Katya is, than building elaborate transcontinental crime networks!

MsHarry · 23/01/2018 18:29

Bullying at boarding school ? I missed that!

HoldMeCloserTonyDanza · 23/01/2018 18:34

Boris was reminiscing about how embarrassed JN would be to see him, he wouldn't want him to hug or kiss him, and JN told him that while Boris got to go straight home to London, JN had to stay there with the other children sneering at him and calling him a Yid.

The "friend" choking out his surname "Godman" and saying he should have changed the name was supposed to be the polite grown-up version of this.

MsHarry · 23/01/2018 19:20

Have you watched it a few times? You have analysed it very closely.

HoldMeCloserTonyDanza · 23/01/2018 20:44

Yes I saw the first episode twice because I made DH watch it after I realised I liked it and I was going to watch the whole thing! Grin

nuttyslackster · 23/01/2018 20:54

Flomper is spot on. The whole idea that Alex would risk everything to avenge the death of a slightly bonkers and criminal uncle just seems too far fetched. It's definitely watchable though if you can get past that.

bakingdemon · 23/01/2018 21:22

We are watching it, and will watch to the end, but I'm quite bored by it. Feels a bit like Taboo, which we watched because we liked the look of the cast and were intrigued by the trailers - the first episode was great and we kept watching in the hope it would get back to that but it never did. Give me another Night Manager BBC!

MissEliza · 23/01/2018 22:27

I feel the series has got better as it went on. I like the fact that there is an international cast who don't speak perfect English as that's something that bothers me in many films and TV shows.The weakest part for me is Alex's fiancé Rebecca. Their relationship is so cold that it's not realistic and she seems really naive for a highly educated woman in a 'high flying' job. If my dh admitted to taking money from someone like the Israeli guy, I'd be changing the locks, not giving dirty looks over breakfast and consulting some guy I'd never heard of til last week (Antonio).

ImListening · 23/01/2018 22:45

I’m 5 episodes in so will stick with it but some of it is pushing credibility too far. Also if I was Rebecca & knew my fiancé had been lying to me I wouldn’t be contacting some friend who’d I’d only heard about recently.

MichaelBendfaster · 24/01/2018 09:51

Rebecca is utterly wooden (well the actress, I suppose, to be precise).

I don't mind JN in this and I think he DID show emotion in Grantchester; I loved him in that.

Clawdy · 24/01/2018 10:35

And in Happy Valley he was terrifying. He is a very versatile actor.

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MadyaunMylford · 25/01/2018 22:26

The mews street also looks similar to where Stephen in the film Scandal lived anyone remember that house?

EllaHen · 25/01/2018 22:28

Yes, that's the fella from The Crown.

DorynownotFloundering · 25/01/2018 22:37

Yes same mews, they get used for all sorts round there.

AlbertaSimmons · 25/01/2018 23:13

I find the Rebecca character distracting. I don’t know if they’re trying to add a bit of unconventionality into it by having Alex’s girlfriend much older than him and so much less attractive, which could be interesting I suppose, but I just find it a bit odd and keep waiting to see if they’re going to explain it.

JaneyEJones · 26/01/2018 11:21

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MichaelBendfaster · 27/01/2018 14:01

Is the mews street really near the Albert Hall and Royal Colleges of Art and Music?

HouseOfMouse · 27/01/2018 15:48

It's growing on me, in particular over the last couple of episodes. Like others, I'm not convinced by the relationship between Alex and his girlfriend - there is just no chemistry at all and she is very wooden. (Though she may not last the course - in particular I do wonder if she has placed herself in danger by expressing her doubts about Alex to the Mexican guy). I'm not keen on his family either - his father is just a self-pitying drunk and his sister is pointless (so far, anyway). I think Norton is deliberately playing Alex as difficult to read, which can come across as a bit blank. He's certainly taking to the illegal side of things rather better than we might have expected.

TimesNewRoman · 27/01/2018 23:06

Is this the same mews street Kiera Knightly lived in Love Actually when Andrew Lincoln rocked up and declared his undying love via giant cards??

Clawdy · 28/01/2018 09:07

It certainly looks like that street. Or are there a few like that?

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MajesticWhine · 28/01/2018 21:15

Oooh, Joseph and whatshername, nice.

DorynownotFloundering · 28/01/2018 21:18

There's one like that somewhere off the back of Earls Court.