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Anyone watching Madeleine McCann ten years on?

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spottysuperted · 03/05/2017 21:17

They're framing it slightly differently now.. 😧 interesting from the bbc...

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myshinynewusername · 03/05/2017 22:39

I think that the Portuguese police files cannot be taken as 100% factual. I am not completely rubbishing them, but they did make many mistakes with the enquiry (especially early on) and have since sought to cover their own backsides.

Plus their previous coverups of the burglaries in order to protect the tourist trade don't really inspire confidence in their honesty and objectivity.

floatingfrog · 03/05/2017 22:39

events

Giddyaunt18 · 03/05/2017 22:39

Door wasn't open, window was.

TattiePants · 03/05/2017 22:39

Shiny Luz is quite small but the Mark Warner complex is in the built up area so it's a bit of a walk to the sea, wasteland etc. I think it is unlikely that she could have walked that far unnoticed. However, we did see some of the police searches of the area and they seemed very haphazard and incomplete (to be fair, my only experience of police searches are from TV programmes). In the first 24 hours after her disappearance there were so few police about that we assumed the missing posters were historic.

Smellbellina · 03/05/2017 22:40

If Madeleine had walked out of her own accord it is far more likely she would have been found.

IfYouGoDownToTheWoodsToday · 03/05/2017 22:40

Alec the police files you are recommending have been shown to be a pile of absolute shite.

HTHs.

AlecTrevelyan006 · 03/05/2017 22:40

Giddy aunt - in the days after Madeline disappeared many local people took time off work to search for her and many police worked unpaid overtime. The Mcanns didn't even search on the night their daughter went missing. People last their jobs because of the actions of the McCanns so I'm not at all surprised there is resentment.

DixieNormas · 03/05/2017 22:41

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myshinynewusername · 03/05/2017 22:42

Depends on the patio door. My boys used to open and close my friend's patio door at that age, but it did slide quite easily.

floatingfrog · 03/05/2017 22:42

Yes but they could have left through the door Giddy.

MrsGuyOfGisbo · 03/05/2017 22:43

The only place that gets anywhere near the facts is in the Portuguese police files which can be found very easily online. Anyone with more than a passing interest in the case, and a few spare hours, would be well advised to read through them no then make up their own mind.
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AlecTrevelyan006 · 03/05/2017 22:43

Alec the police files you are recommending have been shown to be a pile of absolute shite

Really? In what way? They contain, for example, actual verbatim copies of witness statements. How can you say the files are shite?

Smellbellina · 03/05/2017 22:43

Soul well said

WannaBe · 03/05/2017 22:43

The reality is that we will likely never know what happened. In fact it's more likely that a theory will emerge in years to come and be presented as fact such as happened in the disappearance of Ben needham. Sad.

IMO though one of the reasons why opinion turned against the family in the end was because of how things played out in the media. Bearing in mind that the media have a huge amount of influence over how people are viewed by the public, and this wasn't any less the case with the McCanns.

In the beginning there were searches, interviews, press statements, all very normal for the press. There was speculation as well, and Robert Murat was arrested iirc and practically hung drawn and quartered before being released without any kind of charge.

But what happened after that was odd. Not just in a "they didn't show emotions" kind of way, but out of the norm for any other case of its kind.

There was a fund. People started giving money, there were signs and posters all over the country, it was impossible not to know about this child's disappearance.

But more than that. The McCanns went to visit the pope. What for? And more to the point, they left their very small twins back in the very resort they claimed their daughter had been abducted from while they went to visit the pope to ... what exactly?

There was talk of what the money was going to be spent on, including paying the couple's mortgage on the house which the press hadn't wasted any time in telling the public how much it was worth. This was a well off couple accepting donations sometimes from elderly pensioners or people giving the last of their savings to pay their mortgage? Even though those people believed the payments were being made to help find Madeleine.

And Gerry McCann gave an interview just weeks after Madeleine disappeared talking about a potential concert to be given on the year anniversary of her disappearance. If they were looking for a living child, how could they be planning her one year anniversary?

Subsequent to that they have hired a spokes person, all paid for out of the Madeleine fund, and any discussion was quickly shut down with litigation being at the very top of their agenda.

The issue with all of this is that every single bit of it took away from what actually happened, people forgot that a child had disappeared, were told that they had to believe a certain theory or be sued, and the rest played out in the press like a soap opera.

It's impossible to know who made all that happen. Who set up the fund? Who suggested going to see the pope? How did the couple end up going along with all of this or was it all their idea?

And in the middle of it all a small child went missing, and her two siblings have no choice but to live in the shadow of that fact for the rest of their lives.

Giddyaunt18 · 03/05/2017 22:44

Yes but they could have left through the door
I don't think a sleepy , wandering child would close the door behind her. An abductor might though.

DixieNormas · 03/05/2017 22:44

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Emphasise · 03/05/2017 22:44

I don't think the British police come out of it well either. All that money spent by both countries and no really feasible theory presented.

Smellbellina · 03/05/2017 22:44

I'd be inclined to ere on the side of SY then the Portuguese police files.

TattiePants · 03/05/2017 22:44

Alec I'm not sure where the police were searching because it certainly wasn't in the wider Luz area. We were a 5-10 minute walk from the MW complex and the only police activity we saw on the first day was a helicopter. Subsequent days weren't that much better.

Giddyaunt18 · 03/05/2017 22:45

But more than that. The McCanns went to visit the pope. What for? And more to the point, they left their very small twins back in the very resort they claimed their daughter had been abducted from while they went to visit the pope to ... what exactly?
They are Catholic! They went to pray , they believed his prayers could help.

Smellbellina · 03/05/2017 22:46

SY's theory made a lot of sense. Whether or not it was right needed to be investigated.

Giddyaunt18 · 03/05/2017 22:46

And as for leaving their twins, I am sure they were left with friends or family.

IfYouGoDownToTheWoodsToday · 03/05/2017 22:46

Just thought I'd repost your post Soul in case people missed the actually important points in the documentary

Today 22:36 SoulAccount

"The chief of the PJ in Lisbon said on camera that they had no evidence against the McCanns.

The dog business was debunked. They showed a video of the dog walking past the toy twice, without any interest or response.

They showed the report that debunked any DNA evidence that the child's blood was in the apartment or car.

They debunked the Portuguese police position that the shutters could not have been opened from the outside. A Portuguese criminologist demonstrated how easy it was to do"

QuietNameChange · 03/05/2017 22:46

I agree with Giddy. Why shouldn't they visit the pope? Seems sensible for Catholics...

RachelRagged · 03/05/2017 22:47

Seems highly normal to some of you . the ones recounting their own childhood experiences or with their children and leaving them .

Can't say DPs ever left me , I was on holiday too and we stayed together, as did my friends and their parents .

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