Anyone watching Madeleine McCann ten years on?

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They're framing it slightly differently now.. 😧 interesting from the bbc...

I'll have to turn it off soon, though, probably, because they'll put something on that triggers my fecking PTSD.

The lack of compassion for these poor people (from the general public) is astounding. And a lot of it is simply based on the fact they are middle class and should have known better. They looked broken at the time and I still think they look broken now. They made a silly mistake (which they have admitted to) and paid the worst price possible. No one knows what happened so the accusations need to stop, if not for them, then for their other children who have to listen to the snide remarks and accusations made about their parents.

It's only ten years ago, AntiGrinch. The way you phrased that makes it sound as if you're asking about the olden times.

I saw and heard lots of people saying they would never have left their children unattended in a holiday flat while they went out. I know I wouldn't have done it, but I am the most risk averse person on the planet. However, there were plenty of others saying it was a perfectly reasonable thing to do and not such a big risk.

I doubt it would be very much different today, if it had happened now instead of ten years ago.

I found it interesting.

Interesting new footage and unseen evidence.

By let's face it - no one knows what happened. They've followed 100's of lines of enquiry and questioned as many 'persons if interest'

So far all innocent and they still don't know.

Thefirstmrsdv I agree with what you have said.

I also think that they have and will continue to pay the price for this for the rest of their lives, surely that is punishment enough. Makes you wonder how many people have done the same as them, but their children did not go missing.

What have I missed re jonbenet? The poor father and mother were both completely cleared I thought?

They weren't cleared because they never went to trial. The case went to Grand Jury, and the Grand Jury voted to indict them, but they prosecutor elected not to...

I think what the last DC said was spot on. We may not find out anything new until 'allegiances' have been outgrown or changed. More than one person knows what has happened and it may take decades for this to come out.

Thoughts are with Gerry and Kate today.

'I hardly showed any emotion at my mother's funeral.'

I showed very little at my daughter's. I can't remember most of it, either. It took two entire years for that shock to wear off and sometimes it still overwhelms me. I felt like if I started crying I'd go completely insane and have to be carried off screaming. I probably was quiet insane on some level.

I event many a year as a rep. Ironically in the same names complex by elsewhere!

You'd be surprised how many parents leave their children alone on their rooms and go out. Many left out hotel and went 100m down the road.
It always disgraced me

A week or so after reported burglaries nearby.
Which they knew nothing about.

My Ds2 shares a birthday with MM, so this was far too close to watch/read much at the time.

Having seen the layout of the resort and the proximity of the flat relative to the restaurant, I think I might have left sleeping children while we ate and checked back regularly.

Sorry pressed send too soon...

It always disgraced me but that doesn't make the parents involved. And they will pay the price forever

was it common for parents on holiday to leave children and go to dinner then

Yes. We went on a Mark Warner holiday in 1999 and left our 3 and 1 year olds whilst we went down to dinner. Everyone in the restaurant left their children in bed. In fact it was one of the main Mark Warner selling points. They had someone walk round outside the rooms listening for crying babies and would report any to the parents.

What surprises me watching it back is how composed they were in all the tv interviews. It just seems alien to me that they were not completely inconsolable especially at the outset.

Aren't they both doctors? I'd imagine in that career you become very used to setting your emotions aside to deal with horrible issues and very sad issues.

I think the media took against them when they hired a PR advisor. Ironically if they'd hadn't tried to protect themselves against the press they might have been treated with less hostility.

We may not find out anything new until 'allegiances' have been outgrown or changed.
I think this is as close to the truth as they will get for now

A week or so after reported burglaries nearby.
When you arrive at a holiday destination do you ask how many burglaries there have been? Get real.

We used to go to Club Med holidays in the 90s and one of the services offered was "baby solo" - if you left your child in the room at night, you hung a do not disturb style sign saying "baby solo". Staff members walked around the complex and if they heard a baby crying in one of the rooms they came and walked around the restaurants and bars in the complex with a big chalk sign with the room number on! I think attitudes move very quickly in these sorts of situations.

From the footage it is pretty clear how they left their children and checked regularly. The appartment is in their eyeline. It looks like a quiet safe neighbourhood.

That makes it ok then? An unknown area, on holiday, steps, a swimming pool and good knows what else? A little girl who had a star chart at home because she had a habit of waking up, left in a strange unknown apartment, which was unlocked, but might have been locked if the parents had been aware of previous burglaries??? Give me strength.

Give me strength.
You don't sound like you need it!

I had several friends who left their children in hotel rooms and went to eat in restaurants, this is in massive hotels. This was 20 years ago.

I personally never did it as I'm very risk averse but I know plenty who did, year after year without incident.

There is no evidence against the McCanns. There are some awful things being said on Twitter about them.

BonnesVacances

I think you're expected to care though and recognise that she is still someone's DD.

Yes, I know that she was/is someone's DD. And I'm not saying I don't care. I hope she's doing well (as unlikely as it seems to be).

But what's the point of me watching this?

If she's still alive, will it help her? No. And if she isn't? It obviously won't help her either.