Anyone watching Madeleine McCann ten years on?

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They're framing it slightly differently now.. 😧 interesting from the bbc...

I don't know.
People get very invested. They think they have rights to these families just because they have 'sobbed and sobbed thinking of that poor little tot, my OH is really worried about me'.
So they get very angry if they feel let down by these families who they have never met.
If 'they' decide that KN is not the woman they decided she should be they will turn on her like a pack of hungry wolves.

Port cheese, there's a recent long thread of recent and historical mysteries, unsolved murders and disappearances thread on here (folk love a mystery). You should have a look on there

I think KN had as much publicity that was available to her at the time. I clearly remember the news then.

MM disappeared after the event of 24 rolling news plus social media and the WWW.

Unless, of course, the truth is that the crying actually didn't go on for very long at all.

Long enough for her to call a friend and ask her opinion on calling the police. She was a foreigner, she obviously went through the emotions of thinking about calling the police. She possibily called her friend in the village, maybe in the hope her friend would call the police for her. I don't know how good her Portuguese was but most Brits in Portugal don't speak much Portuguese, certainly not enough to explain to an emergency operator that they're not sure if it's an emergency or not but they think a child's been abandoned, I speak Portuguese well but I'd struggle in a situation like that. Just looking at threads on here tells you that many people struggle to call the police without getting confirmation that they should from one or more people first. The parents came back before she called the police. There are some serious what ifs that that poor woman took to her grave. I bet Madeleine's parents wish she had made that call.

Unless, of course, the truth is that the crying actually didn't go on for very long at all.

Again what would she have to gain by lying/exaggerating? Genuine question that no one has really answered yet.

But when you are listening to a child crying it does seem to go on forever doesn't it? Especially if it's not your own child and you can't really do much about it ie a neighbours child.

I think you're very probably right MrsDV. You couldn't put anything past the sort of person who thinks themself entitled to use one parent of a missing child as a stick to beat another with.

I actually fell down a bit of a worm hole last night and read some of the original investigation stuff. I can't believe all the lost opportunities - a polish couple had allegedly tried to abduct another child less than a week before in that area, then left the day after Maddie disappeared. The child's father managed to take a photo of the rental car and they identified who they were. They were finally tracked down days later, in Poland, and all that happened was the local police checked Maddie wasn't in the car!! No forensic checks, didn't even look on the camera that the man had been taking photos of the other 4 year old girl with. Totally crazy. It's so sad to think of all the information that has been missed/lost and now 10 years later the questions remain unanswered.

I heard that was totally fabricated story. As the fund has so much money to mount an investigation themselves and the Met are trying to tie up loose ends I would go with that being either bullshit or it's already been cleared.

In terms of the crying, I read something about another couple who were walking past the Mccann's appartment the night before and heard distressed crying. The police didn't formally interview them and the MET were trying to track them down. I can't find anything about it now, maybe I read it in Portuguese.

I feel dirty after reading some of the posts on here. I'm amazed at how a bunch of anonymous keyboard warriors can state with such conviction what "really happened". This is a family's personal tragedy. It actually happened to them. Shame on you.

Having their mortgage paid by the fund is profiting personally. And there are plenty of people who donated who are unhappy that their donations were used for this

But the mcanns couldn't work for months/years? I personally don't mind my money being used for this

I don't either Rach. The mortgage payments were for something like 3 months, while they still in Portugal dealing with their missing daughter. That is helping the search - enabling the parents to be in the place where she went missing.

I seem to remember that Gerry McCann going back to work attracted criticism too - they can't do right for doing wrong.

good post Soes. They can do no right to some people.

Delete, it isn't at all unknown for peripheral witnesses to high-publicity events to exaggerate o even lie to get themselves more involved. But, of course, it could be that that witness is simply mistaken. There are just a number of aspects of her evidence that don't hang together, whatever her motivation.

The Gaspar statements are rather chilling I must say......

I feel uncomfortable about the soliciting of money. I feel the aggressive way that Clarence Mitchell in particular went about this has in the long run been really bad for the McCanns and has resulted in lots of people feeling annoyed. Some people don't mind the mortgage payments, others who are struggling to make their own or who are a lot less well off will feel differently. I see how the McCanns would have wanted the most publicity possible, but I was unsure what the money was being collected for in the early days as you can't pay for a private investigation into an ongoing case in Portugal and presumably they didn't need to pay for the media to be interested? In the end it's fair to say that lots of the money has had to be spent on managing their reputation because of the spending decisions made in the first place. None of the private firms have found Madeleine and some of them have been worse than a waste of time.

As the fund has so much money to mount an investigation themselves and the Met are trying to tie up loose ends I would go with that being either bullshit or it's already been cleared.

Could the fund mount a meaningful investigation? I'd have thought you would need the right to oblige people to speak to you, access records and sites etc. Met, yes, but private investigations don't have the same legally permitted access.

Possibly not, but I don't think it was even attempted. I would think, if there was actually anything in it and it was that obvious the Mccann's would have moved heaven and earth to follow it up and it would be THE lead.

I think we will get a resolution within our life times. Either a deathbed confession or remains. It's the twins I feel for though. Half the world believes their parents are murderers, what must the poor little mites be feeling. It's just awful which ever way it happened

looks like flea bites. Flea eggs can be doormant in carpets for ages, until a bit of warm weather then the buggers come out to play. Did previous owners/tenants have pets? My son got fleas once from a pair of PJs he got for Christmas from skanky-- mil

Sorry to hear that maddening. Have you jumped threads?

Could the fund mount a meaningful investigation?

That's just it, I'm not sure it could, not as much as people believed when they donated though.

I've always wanted to understand the whole setting up of the fund process. I have very little knowledge in this area though. When a child goes missing, do all parents get the option to set up a fund within 24 hours?

www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/106feb16/Enid_O_Dowd_01_02_2016.htm

This person appears to be a professional in finance and focuses on why the fund remained a private company and didn't receive charitable status but she doesn't explain what difference this makes.

It also mentions that the year accounts submitted one year after it was set up show just 13% of the funds being allocated to finding mm. Again, is this normal? (Or as normal as something can be in this situation).

I'm sure anyone can set up a fund any time if they like but as you say they can't call it a charity. I honestly don't know how much is normal to spend on a search but maybe they don't include things like the wristbands and posters or website management etc in that category.

But if that was your child, would you let it drop if the police didn't fully investigate? I think we all know how much clout the Mccann's have, even from very early on. They are educated, articulate and influential, that helped them to raise awareness and get noticed. I cannot believe that they would drop it like that if the lead was so convincing.

But looking at the facts the Portuguese police investigated, discovered the name of the couple and found that they left Portugal unaccompanied, confirmed by airport security/records/cc tv so why on earth would the Polish search them for a child? Quite possibly they actually searched for other evidence. But there is an awful xenophobic attitude to all other police forces involved in this case and the assumption that only the magic Met can actually do anything right. Not sure what perpetuates this, ignorance or arrogance or just a mixture of the two .