Anybody been watching PLL and want to discuss!

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it's my secret shame and I can't believe I've hung on for so long...

Oh and why was Noel in the dolls house?!

another good point!!! I have no idea what's going on in this show. I sort of feel like I need to go back and watch from the beginning but not sure if I can take it plus might be pushing my addiction to a whole new level.

According to fan sites (I have way too much time in my hands) Wren is supposed to be in series 7 so maybe he has something to do with it all? He has close links to Radley and AD seems to be able to get into medical facilities like when they got the blood donations and Emily's eggs. Hmmm.

If wren comes back the fan sites might explode he has always been heavily suspected but have no idea what his supposed motive would be. Maybe him nd Melissa are working together? She knew Spencer wasn't her real sister and resented her for some reason?

I don't quite believe Charlotte was behind it all either. I don't think we do know her killer yet. If we do I've forgotten anyway!

I actually wouldn't be surprised if it is Wren though. I can see the creators of the show doing it just to please the fandom.

If they could make it so Wren had a legitimate reason for being behind everything and a link to Archer/Elliot I would be OK with that. But I think they've tied themselves into so many knots whoever it turns out to be isn't 100% going to make sense!

Just a thought...maybe it isn't a coincidence that Wren and Archer/Elliott are both British?

That's what I think, there has to be a link between the two of them. Also we've started to watch again from season 1. It should make the time, until the next season, go a bit quicker hopefully.

There have been instances of them saying "it was a British accent" when talking about phone calls. More recently that could have been Elliot but I seem to remember it happening before he was around. Maybe they are going to turn out to be brothers or something.

I've started at season 1 again too. I realised I had forgotten 90% of what happened previously. I'm at the bit where they think Toby is A (I guess they were kind or right!) and he is the towns resident weirdo.

I can't even remember who all the A's have been. There was Mona, lucas, Ezra, Toby then Charlotte?? Or is that the wrong order? There was that girl they got trapped in the theater with in new York but I can't even remember how she fitted in!

I've watched it a few times through and honestly it never makes a whole lot of sense
Maybe Wren killed Charlotte because he loves Spencer and hated her for the shit she did to the girls.
I agree as time goes on it seems less like Charlotte was the boss behind it all.
Interesting thought about the brits...would be a bit lame though.

I've given in and started on season one again. it's so much creepier when you know Ezra knows exactly who aria is...

I've just been reading theories

1. Toby dies and donates an organ which saves Spencer.

1. Maya is alive and somehow connected to it all. Mona said "Maya knew" to Aria when she was in Radley.

1. Wren is Bethany Young's brother which is his motive.

1. The creepy twins that visited hanna's mum are relevant and so is the fact that it was her that she them.

1. Spencer has a twin. I thought the twin thing had been put to bed by Mary Drake appearing but maybe not.

interesting theories. I love the idea of spencer having a twin.

I wonder what they mean about the twins that visited hanna's mum?

Toby can't die! Maybe it's Yvonne who donates an organ and saves spencer...

I also read that Aria's fake boyfriend Holden comes back which is a bit random. I barely remember him.

I wonder if Nicole's reappearance is relevant at all or just a tool to split up Aria and Ezra.

The Spencer twin theory seems to be based on the fact that sometimes she has a fringe and sometimes she doesn't you'd think if you were going to pretend to be someone else for 10+ years you'd at least get the hair right.

I do wonder about Toby dying as the whole "last kiss" thing was pretty intense.

What twins?! Have I forgotten a crucial part?

Remember one Halloween episode hanna's mom got visited by the creepy twins. Then they disappeared when pastor Ted showed up. They are also ones ali told a story about when she was babysitting.

wasn't there only one little girl who visited but it was the same little girl who was a twin in Ali's scary Halloween story?

I've never noticed that about Spencer re the fringe... am going to look out for it now I'm re-watching. Lucas must have something to do with it because he's been brought back - for no real reason other than to be rich and help Hanna start a business...

I wonder how Veronica Hastings fits into all this - she seemed to dislike Jason a LOT and he was the son of her husband and Jessica DiLaurentis so why would she knowing taking in the daughter of Jessica's sister? Especially since Spencer might still be her dad's daughter even though Mary is apparently her mother. I'm still not sure that's true... I don't trust anything anymore

On another note, what do you think is the most wtf thing that's happened on the show? not in terms of drama but in terms of how the fuck did A have the expertise to do that?

like the message in hanna's tooth!

The message in hanna's tooth was AWFUL

It was one girl, you're right.

I read that possibly Mary Drake acted as a surrogate for the Hastings. So she gave birth to spencer but biologically she is Veronica's daughter. I don't think that can be right though. Doubt they'd let someone who was sectioned be a surrogate!

I need to find where all these theories are online, clearly I'm not devoting enough hours to speculation, must get my priorities right.

I kind of like the idea of Spencer going a bit dark after this because obviously she has to survive. Wanted Aria to be the one with the dodgy background though there seems to be something slightly off with her since the beginning.

Spencer definitely survives because someone posted a picture online of them doing a table read for the new episodes and she is there with a "Spencer" sign in front of her.

I hope Wren isn't a baddie, I like Wren.

Half asleep thoughts

I can't remember if I liked Wren because he's been gone so long! I think he'll definitely be bad though, even if he isn't A. Well, either that or he'll be the big hero who swoops in and saves everyone.

He did go a bit shady though didn't he, giving Charlotte passes into Radley.