Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Telly addicts

Anyone watching Deutschland 83?

307 replies

Destinysdaughter · 03/01/2016 21:35

Am enjoying it so far. Very intriguing
premise and beautifully shot. I don't mind subtitles, find they make me concentrate more and am very interested in this period of history. Looking forward to see how it develops...anyone else? ( guess most of you are watching War and Peace tonight!)

OP posts:
IPityThePontipines · 30/01/2016 13:26

The implication from the twitter is that the foot soldiers are East, as it was one of them who ran Linda over.

Rollergirl1 · 30/01/2016 13:51

Mornington: there have been a few shots like that in other episodes where you have seen Martin and it looks like from the vantage point of someone watching him. But I wasn't sure if it was just a slightly different camera angle or not.

AmIthatbloodycold · 30/01/2016 20:37

I've just watched for 3rd time. I hadn't noticed the arm, I had thought the driver was Kramer, but now I see the driver was at the railway station - you see the car stop and then reverse.

I don't think Martin/Mortiz set out to drown Linda, more like it was an opportunity NOT to eliminate her, but he realised that he couldn't let her drown.

I have this awful feeling that she wasn't properly dead when he buried her. I hope that's wrong.

Despite all of the above, I'm still rooting for Moritz.

I wonder if I would feel differently if he wasn't so damned cute

wowfudge · 30/01/2016 23:47

Turn in that context meant get her to spy for the East Germans mornington.

She was dead alright - that's why whoever it was who supplied the shovel and the sack told Martin to bury the body.

Yvonne, the General's daughter, saw Martin with Linda so we wondered whether he sought her out to cover his tracks.

Davros · 31/01/2016 18:12

Linda was more than a bit stupid to run into the woods. Will the handbag she dropped cause trouble?!

gingercat12 · 31/01/2016 18:21

I can't work out where I know the actor playing Henrik Mayer from.

RockNRollNerd · 31/01/2016 20:10

Borgen perhaps? He was in that according to IMDB

Destinysdaughter · 31/01/2016 21:38

It's getting more complex tonight! But why did the wife put the fish on the floor..?

OP posts:
FrancesHB · 31/01/2016 21:46

General Edel loved that fish Sad

OttiliaVonBCup · 31/01/2016 21:50
Hmm

Surely that would be Genosse Posimsky.

annandale · 31/01/2016 22:02

Man. Getting darker.

We suddenly thought lenora was going to murder Ingrid which woulnd't have made any sense, but she is just the personification of bad things!

I like the character of Tischbein, I mean he's vile but interesting.

justkeeponsmiling · 31/01/2016 22:21

anna I thought Leonora was about to kill her sister too. It seemed so sinister the way she told Anette to "go for a walk", I was sure she was about to do something evil. I thought maybe after the meeting where she had been told how important Kolibri/Martin was as a spy she would maybe consider killing her sister so he wouldn't need to go through the op and be put out of action for a while. It was strange to see her human side, she seems so evil and ruthless.
What did Anette say to the guy she handed the books to (can't remember his name)? Something about a boyfriend? I missed that bit.

gingercat12 · 31/01/2016 22:23

I think the wife was messing with General Edel. She clearly thought if she blew her brain out, Herr Edel would just get over it. But there are other more annoying ways to upset him.

What does Anett want to say? Is she leaving Moritz for Thomas or is she dropping Thomas right in it?

gingercat12 · 31/01/2016 22:24

She said I have a message for my fiancee.

OttiliaVonBCup · 31/01/2016 22:26

Annett shopped Thomas and Ingrid to the Stasi.

justkeeponsmiling · 31/01/2016 22:32

Thanks ginger.
I did catch her saying "I know where there's more". I thought that was really odd, I can see why she would shop Thomas, but why would she drop Ingrid in it?

OttiliaVonBCup · 31/01/2016 22:40

Because she thought it was her duty to the state.

Perihelion · 01/02/2016 09:46

Is there really only 3 episodes left?
I hardly watch TV but am really gripped by this. So if I like D93 what else might I like?

DonkeysDontRideBicycles · 01/02/2016 10:30

I was a bit taken aback at the mention of Carlos the Jackal but I suppose he was in with the Stasis in that era.

It was tense at the hospital and yes for a horrible moment thought Lenora would see her sister off with a pillow.

I wondered if Ursula would serve up the fish for the general's meal.

Rollergirl1 · 01/02/2016 11:36

Who was the guy that Martin gave the canister to and then killed on the train tracks? I thought he was responsible for the bomb that went off? But then all the news reports said that was Carlos the Jackal was responsible for the bombing. But he's still alive and in prison so that can't have been him that Martin

NoahVale · 01/02/2016 11:38

i dont understand the man who took the coffee, still had it, yet martin killed him and then ripped apart the bomb.
can someone explain

NoahVale · 01/02/2016 11:39

I think they thought it was Carlos the Jackal but it wasnt

NoahVale · 01/02/2016 11:40

i thought Annet is now defecting, or being a traitor the same as Martin by approaching the man with the book.

AgonyBeetle · 01/02/2016 12:00

Oh and the town where Martin comes from is right next to Berlin-Zehlendorf, (which was/is West Berlin). So not in the sticks.
The house his mum lives in is in Kleinmachnow, and they are exactly like that! It was a desirable pre-war small-villa kind of place, but after the wall went up it became a bit of a backwater, because it was quite cut off from its natural hinterland, iyswim. You had to go to Potsdam and then to East Berlin, which would have been quite a circuitous journey.

I wondered about accents but assume that a Potsdam/Brandenburg accent will be similar to Bielefeld (or maybe the soldier he replaced was from the Berlin/Potsdam area originally but stationed in Bielefeld, not sure if they said). If Martin had come from Saxony there's no way he could have passed for a West German.

I think the accent thing is fundamentally implausible, tbh. Potsdam/brandenburg accent would be not that different from Berlin, but significantly different from West German accents. In the film they get round it by making them all speaker Hochdeutsch, which is the Gm equivalent of RP or BBC Egnlish. But tbh IRL he would certainly have been outed through linguistic slips, not just accent but different different words and turns of phrase - he would have inadvertently said Plaste instead of Plastik, or Broiler or Konsum, or failed to understand a Western slang word or colloquialism, and it would have been game over.

But it's a good watch, for all that.

NoahVale · 01/02/2016 12:01

it is ok.
have read the recap and am slightly clearer
i think
www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/tvandradioblog/2016/jan/31/deutschland-83-recap-episode-five-cold-fire

Swipe left for the next trending thread