Jamie's sugar rush

[lastqueenofscotland]

Anyone be watching tonight?
I'm really looking forwards :)

Is it that people don't know or don't care? I regularly see children maybe between 7-12 ish buying the cheap energy drinks or lucozade type ones at the shop near my house. They're big 500ml bottles, loads of sugar in them. If they're drinking them out the house the parents probably don't know they're even buying them
Low fat has been pushed for so long people think low fat and not about the sugars
I love cereal (a lot!) but I gain weight eating carbs/sugar so now have eggs in some form for breakfast
Salad dressing, mayo (bought ones) with sugar in - why?! I don't want a sweet Caesar dressing

any initiative to encourage healthy eating is good however tv programmes made by cleb chefs really annoy me.
Firstly it is car crash telly..lets all look on in horror at how the 'poor people who clearly know no better feed dreadful things to their children' so we can all feel better that our darling little ones are eating a nice organic broccoli stem. It makes us feel so much better about ourselves ( as we get stuck into the the sauvignon blanc) but more then that, where was Jamie 5 years ago when fat was the evil thing ?....was he wittering on about sugar then ??? oh no he wasn't....don't think he is doing this programme for anything other then self gain. Is he doing it for free ? and giving out copies of the accompanying book ( available in all good book stores near you) for free to all the 'poor' he wants to save from themselves ????
Is he heck .....no he is no doubt making plenty out of this .
Instead of paying overinflated egos to make this kind of voyeuristic tv maybe the programme developers could put the money into community projects to support developing better nutritional skills and cooking classes in area of deprivation.

I think our cultural attitude to sugar needs to change. It is very difficult to limit your child's sugar consumption while everyone else's child is eating vast quantities. The opportunity to eat sugar is everywhere and it is seen as a good thing - a reward, a gift, breakfast, school dinners....its consumption is constant.
My kids get less than most and they were complaining about it, so we worked out how much they had in a day and they were quite surprised it was so much....because they didn't really feel they'd had any.
We need to see sugar, in the way the Gov made us see fat....although how wrong they were about that one!

I don't think it's that people don't know that these foods have sugar in tryhard but it's the sheer amount of added sugar and the fact we don't seem to have any ideas what is a healthy amount.
The examples he used did seem like a normal diet yet there was a staggering amount of added sugar.
I am fit and healthy and have a good BMI. I keep active and have no health problems. But looking at that sample day of food, I would eat (minus the sugary water - hate those) plus a few biscuits/piece of cake/chocolate etc. all of this adds up to way to much sugar.
I cut out sugary drinks years ago so maybe it's time the look at how to reduce sugars in other ways. I doubt I'll make radical changes but a few small things can make a difference overall.

Notoed I agree on the whole esp. about the reward culture which is soo sugar focused.

But not ALL people are good with animal or hydrogenated fat, olive oil is brilliant for everyone not when used for high temp. frying though. We are all different in our reactions to sugar too, breast milk is sweet!

Not, I agree. Even when we were last skiing ( fairly healthy active sport) on the slope was a massive Nutella tent giving out free samples). 2 days later Christmas the ski shop was handing out free chocolates to the children. Then the hotel was. If that were cocaine not sugar it would not be pushed in the same way. Go anywhere - even our gym when we were members had free toffees at reception. Teachers will hand out chocolate or sweets to pupils. Pupils will bring in cake. It is no longer a once a month treat - it is forced on us every day.

Anyone on here who moves to 2 healthy meals a day and only drinking water will be healthier. I was not meaning only the poor although there is a correlation in the UK - the lower your income and educational level and larger you tend to be and the worse your diet.

Hydrogenated fats are hideous, as are margarines - I only eat any natural fats, i have no issues with lard or butter, olive oil, cheese etc. I limit sunflower oil though as it's too high in omega 6 and i get nowhere near enough omega 3 to justify eating lots of omega 6.

Thelushinthepub I think Janet was repainted to the previous poster who said that when her income went down, she couldn't afford to eat healthily. So Janet replied that, for those with not much money, one idea could be to eat healthily but to skip breakfast to try to save money on food. I don't think she was having a dig at 'poor people'.

Replying, not repainted!

Hmm so I've just watched this and I have one question.

It started off pretty well looking at hidden sugars in food, and how it's really bad that the industry adds sugar to EVERYTHING.

So why did the rest of the programme just focus on fizzy pop? Is he putting a sugar tax on all the desserts in his restaurants too? Bet not...

It is quite hard to pack totally sugar free lunchboxes. Breakfast and dinner are fine because they are made fresh at home, but interesting sugar-free lunches for children are very hard.
If you look in the sugar free cookbooks that have abounded of late there are loads of recipes for sugar alternative puddings made with agarve and similar. Surely they are missing the point altogether and there just needs to be far less eating of sweet things.

i think this is his promo film for his new series starting next week, but that doesn't mean that he isn't making a good point.
i did think he was being a bit stupid thinking that restaurant owners would try to reduce consumption of a very high revenue product with no profitable alternative.

i agree geranium, making sugar free puddings out of concentrated fruit juice and dried fruit is almost as bad as sugar.

Angelica that was when DH and i were living on £40 a week which had to include all his heart prescription meds and hospital parking plus his heart rehabilitation course which we had to abandon when i was forced to do workfare so i would have the money to pay for bus fares to a job with no wage. The hospital wasnt too happy with the Job Centre and the fact the heart rehab course had to be abandoned which caused even more of an impact on DHs health. In the past two years i have lost the 4 stone i regained of the 10 stone i originally lost.

But a few years further back it was just not possible.

Some people have no idea No idea at all. And i dont see myself as being of a low educational level.

I will not be justifying myself any further when im the one who has achieved a weight loss like i have.

Not having a go at you Angelica btw.

You mentioned Nutella Janet The advertising actually had the nerve to pretend it's healthy

A lot of people are highly influenced by advertising, how does JO intend to fight the lies given out by the manuf. who make soo much money out of sugar\chemical sweeteners?

The govt are ignorant too.

Manufacturers have been doing that for years - chocolate, cola and tobacco all started out as healthy products.

ppea the advertising for Special K does the same

Yes, it's all around us, very misleading advertising. Even the paleo bars and the smoothie advertising.

The ASA has no teeth. True Helena . Geranium Some chocolate is ok though.

Tesco has brought out a custard cream spread I shit you not. Ive seen it on another thread.

O..M..G That disgusting margeriney,sugary filling in a spread??? Bloody 'ell people will eat anything.

I can't bear the LOOK of those cupcakes with ten tons of icing on top, let alone to EAT them

ppea when i was a kid in the late 70s and throughout the 80s a plain cake with some icing sugar on top or those little fairy cakes with i little bit of icing in the middle were a great treat. I remember my mum making butterfly cakes which just a tiny TINY bit of buttercream in them.

Now i see giant cupcakes...... and those big cakes covered in choc fingers and other chocolate bars.

I raised this issue on the GBBO thread. They did a sugar free challenge this week but used honey, argave etc instead of sugar. Which is pretty pointless really, well certainly are far as our bodies are concerned as the effects are largely the same. It's not like people are allergic to sugar itself (like you might do a gluten free challenge) So I didn't see the point of the challenge.

Turns out people do think that argave/honey etc are "good" sugar replacements and GBBO have just reinforced this by calling a sugar free challenge, when really they were doing a "granulated sugar free" challenge. Pointless. Makes me want to bang my head.