3 day nanny tue 8pm ch4 s2

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just incase anyone liked this last series :)

Agree with art&co about the gate! I felt so sad for flossie going from being used to being snuggled up with mummy in bed to being locked in a dark room on her own, no wonder she was screaming at the door and using a baby gate to restrain her is awful, they are meant to be to prevent a baby from getting somewhere dangerous not for making a bedroom into a seclusion room.
The daytime stuff was frustrating to watch though I would have just picked that buggy up and took her home!!

I thought a bit of ignoring Flossie, would have worked wonders.

"Well if you aren't going to sit and eat tea, that's fine, you can get down". Then just ignore.

"Ok if you don't want your hair brushing now, we can't go out. Bring me the brush when you're ready.

There was far too much "do this, don't do that" the parents drove me mad and all that chasing after her, I'd be exhausted!

Yes I also agree the gate, pitch dark bedroom and leaving to cry for half an hour was blooming cruel.

My thought in relation to the hair was: why not just cut it short?

I also thought it was fairly nonsensical to say that Flossie was letting the pram go because she was crying out for boundaries. I thought it was pretty clear that she was letting it go because it was fun, and because she knew that Daddy would always chase after it for her and laugh and it was all a good game.

I'm still coming out on the side of the softies on this I'm afraid . Although I thought it was better than last week because she was less physical with Flossie. Lots of manhandling around last week, which I didn't like. Fine maybe from a parent, but very intimidating from a stranger.

I would also try the more gentle approach with bedtimes. It's the same problem that I had with the screaming step last week.

They're essentially being punished for behaviour their parents have always encouraged. It's confusing and unfair. Also think a little nightlight wouldn't have been the worst thing.

I have to say though, I was watching her careering down the road on her bike or scooter with my heart in my mouth. Hugely dangerous and I wouldn't allow that for a second.

It also seems very mean to make a child go from sharing parents bed to being locked in a dark room basically alone

Surely there's a middle ground? I would have gone for something like yes she has to stay in own bed, but parents sit next to her and read stories in semi dark until she falls asleep, or at least read stories and sit next to her until she is asleep. Reassuring her she can come and find parents in the night if needed and they can return her to bed. Going from full on co sleeping to no contact at all and no way of reaching parents if scared is terribly harsh for a 3 year old

My own 4 year old shares our bed still most of the time, our 5 year old on his own accord has moved to sleeping in his own bed 95% of the time in the last year. Both co slept with us from babies. It was far easier to let them continue until they felt ready as then no issue. Parents obv allowed it until now so seems harsh to punish child for something parents obv didn't mind at some point

I agree about the night light, but thought the rest of it was spot on. Was very impressed with both parents - they followed her advice and seemed to get it first time. Mum did brilliantly with the made up song at hair time! Not an easy thing to do. I do share a previous poster's concern about whether the parents can keep it up without nanny's support though

They're essentially being punished for behaviour their parents have always encouraged. It's confusing and unfair.

This with bells on!

This is also the reason why I have been a right bitch firm with DC from a very young age; I've always thought that it must be much harder to be told your habitual behaviour is now 'wrong' than to just be trained into better habits from the start. I felt I was being really harsh with the kids when they were tiddlers (started imposing rules on DS1 at 13mo because that's when DS2 arrived) but now they're older and have never known anything different it is so much easier. No reasonable requests are denied without good justification, I hasten to point out.

I was slightly proud when I realised that my DC will ALWAYS try their outrageous requests on with daddy if I say no first (because he's a soft touch) but if their daddy says no in the first instance then they just glance at me, clearly think 'No chance' and slouch off. They've learnt

I felt a bit like that too - she made my 4 look like angels! (They're not!!) but they are decently behaved when out and about (mostly!)

MRS WISHYWASHY congratualtions on your "gentle" way with children. Nothing wrong with kindness.

Trouble is TV series need DRAMA. So they can whip up controversial issues. Kindness does not play well on TV. Alas

I'm all about the boundaries (god knows I need to be with DD2) but I struggled with leaving her to scream like that for half an hour.

Struggled more with a three year old still having a dummy, mind.

'Struggled more with a three year old still having a dummy, mind'

Same here! One thing at a time I guess but hopefully she left them with that as the next thing to tackle

They can't change everything all at once. I thought the parents were lovely, very aware of what they were doing wrong and completely embraced the new changes. Mum looks really familiar but I can't think how I'd know her

I was amused at DH's ability to re-write history as we were watching it; he was harrumphing and listing all the things the couple were doing wrong, but deflated rather when I reminded him that DS1 (4.1) has only recently discovered how to fucking listen and not just run off shrieking manically when admonished, and that he also climbs into our bed every morning (I'm soft on this I admit).

DS2 (3.0), by contrast, has always been a right goody-two-shoes. I swear that if we'd had DS2 first we would have been the smuggest parents in England, if not the world.

Apart from the shoving her in a dark bedroom alone tactic I thought this episode was much better and her strategies were kinder.

Floss it was such a bright girl and I was very impressed with her ability to spread the butter . Her language skills were also extremely good meaning she could reason with her parents (iyswim?) in a far more mature way than her emotional understanding being just 3! But I think her cleverness probably helped with her getting it quickly and changing her behaviours in reaction to her parents changing there's quite quickly.

I was laughing at the obvious habits - she just said 'no' instantly to any request and would automatically turn away with whatever she had the minute her parents approached her.

I actually found her adorable - whinging aside

Dame the parents were on a home swop program that was on in the afternoon a while ago.
Gloria Hunniford might have been involved

Nope, wasn't that but possibly from something else if they've already been on telly ...CDWM?

Nope, wasn't that but possibly from something else if they've already been on telly ...CDWM?

Nope, wasn't that but possibly from something else if they've already been on telly ...CDWM?

Ffs

Some aspects were thought to be cruel by many people. I assume the RSPCC watch such programmes.

It seems reasonable to point out that TV stations can get away with things ordinary individuals could not get away.

I am looking forward to next weeks. A separated family where the dad doesnt do discipline. Bet he thinks he is cool and the kids are his best friends.