24 hours in police custody

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These 2 detectives sat talking shite aren't filling me with confidence in our police force.

And they've both ruined their lives. They won't work again, will have destroyed their relationships

Compared to the ruined lives of the children involved a few years in prison should be the minimum punishment.

further up the thread it was stated that most women stick by their partners

• so relationships are not always destroyed

But moderate sums of benefit fraud often carry custodial sentences. Are we saying that crimes against the Government (for money) are more 'worthy' of custodial sentences than crimes against young defenceless children?

or 15 years given to a city banker - 15 years !

for goodness sake

I wish I hadn't watched it. The police interviewers were amateurish, to say the least, and I still feel sickened by that teacher's "confessions" - he looked as though he relished talking about it. Those poor little children.

As for the sentence - hardly worth the trouble of prosecution. How does that alter his behaviour or protect children in future?

Is anyone else shocked at how they seemed to defer to the fact he was a Dr?

Then....they are concerned for his well fare!

Am shocked.

I dunno, I think some of the officers are out of their depth. I thought stopping the 'right to remain silent' was going to mean you had better interviews. Now, all you have is 'no comment'. Its pointless.

The reason there is such a back log in 'computer forensics' is the UK sold of the police run lab. Its now run by a private company who are back logged.

I've read the police have so many open investigations into indecent images they can't afford to deal with other crimes.

If they being arrested in the US federal system they would have got 50 odd years which is the other extreme.

I think some police forces in the UK have officers that deal only with crimes of a sexual nature/child abuse.

I think those two luton cases came out of the NCA investigation( National crime agency)into sexual abuse of children. There was over 700 arrests in the UK.

I believe every force has a dedicated sexual crimes unit.
I'm not sure it's right that most partners stay - I mean how would you know that?

I know that these images are serious and they are creating demand for these crimes to be committed and for these children to be in demand for abuse. And that's reflected in the way the crimes are dealt with and sentenced (after all- most people who watch a crime vein committed online won't even be arrested) BUT these men are being charged with watching/ distributing the images. They aren't being charged with encouraging rape, or creating a demand for if. You can only deal with that they've actually done.

The Dr really had a small number of images. I suspect had he not confessed he may not have even been prosecuted. The images are ranked by severity so don't forget they may have been on the less serious side which has been reflected in sentencing. We won't know really.

It's not hard to know the specifics of the cases, a very quick Google brings them up. One of the images the doctor had was the most serious category. The sentencing of such crimes is a joke. I also don't think the police were being deferential to him, just being polite and civil in the same way they are meant to be with all suspects.

I do wonder if we need to adopt a model closer to Germany's and try to do more to prevent these types of offences before they occur. I always wonder if some of the people who go on to do this would seek help to prevent their offending if it was available outside of the criminal justice system.

I can't get over the sentencing.

I hope to God they were able to identify and help the children. And prosecute their parents.

I'd support corporal punishment for these sick bastards. Not hanging - death would be too easy for them.

Sick, sick fucker. He was relishing talking about it.

But everyone in his town will know who he is and what he's done. That's something at least.

And those police officers shocked me. They looked like teenagers.

I was sickened by this programme.

The school worker - was he a teacher? - seemed relieved to be caught, like he'd been waiting for the day to offload and have action taken against him.

Was there no investigation into impropriety towards the doctor's patients?

Yes there was leccy, they said at sentencing there was no suggestion of impropriety in his professional capacity.

The school worker was an IT technician at a school is St Albans, thankfully not a teacher. His sentencing is still playing on my mind this morning. The severity and volume of the images he accessed means the sentence seems ridiculous. His wife has stayed with him.

I've not watched last nights yet but last weeks was awful. The reaction to working a 20 hour shift made it look like it's not something they've done very often. Her interview was shit, she was wound up by him not saying what she wanted him to say & just wasn't listening to him when he was talking. As for the copper practically interviewing him in his hospital room...
I wish they'd showed the time of her starting the phone call to CPS to it getting answered - can be 2-3 hours listening to the ringing tone.

I would like to see a change in the law, so that those viewing these images/videos was classed as just as guilty as those actually abusing the child. I know it is fiction, and the US, but on an episode of Law and Order:SVU, men who viewed a girl being abused on line were considered to have abused her themselves.

At the very least, there should be far stiffer penalties for viewing these images - because as we all know, if nobody viewed them, nobody would be making them. I am not kidding myself that child abuse would stop, but at least one bit of it would.

And sadly, I am not kidding myself that the demand for these images will ever go away either. I am just wishing.

I was looking for this thread last night, I'm not naive (my parents have fostered abused children for 40 odd years) But God that was sickening. The teacher was almost revelling in disclosing what he had done, and to compare it to the officers sex life just made me feel ill. The sentencing was mindbogingly lenient, how can that be a deterrent? The programme was just encouragement for others to think they will get away with it.

I don't know what the answer is, but suspended sentences are not it. Those poor children.

I watched this last night and was horrified that the Drs wife didnt seem surprised and that the Teacher was so blase about it all. And at the sentences they both received.

I agree with PP who suggested the police officers looked like teenagers, and I also felt the one with the child who said her child would definitely tell her if she was being abused,was naive. Maybe get child would tell her, maybe she wouldn't. Strange that the police officer didn't seem tone aware of the grooming and manipulation that goes on.

Her -not get

To be -not tone

iPhone grrrrr!!

The reaction to working a 20 hour shift made it look like it's not something they've done very often and why should it be? Working 20 hours straight isn't good for anyone.

Why do the police officers dress so casually/scruffily?

I don't expect suits but I thought maybe business type dress, ie no jeans or sportswear.

Is it so that it all appears more casual and a suspect is more likely to open up, than in a formal and possibly scary-seeming situation?

It's not good for anyone, especially if they have to be back in after 4/5 hours sleep but unfortunately for a detective it is something they have to do often. It's a case of do that & get them charged or bail them to come back in a few months. My observation was that by their ott reaction they haven't done many of them or they were hamming it up for the cameras!

I think it's because they have come straight in from a plain clothes arrest.

Did no-one see that the school worker got a three year rehabilitation order (or whatever it's now called) which will give him help to deal with his 'interest' and should reduce th chance of him re-offending? Whilst I understand people want him in prison, that may well be the best thing for him and society as a whole. If they can put him through a sex offenders programme, it may make a difference.