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[Hassled]

...before the previous thread here rolls off a cliff.

Someone wanted a character list. I have, with a bit of help from Wiki, come up with:
The Mighty Carrie
Quinn aka Woopert. Most of us definitely would, despite the resemblance to a ferret.
Lockhart - once hated, now we have some grudging respect.
Saul - all that is right and good in the world, with a passing resemblance to Life of Brian man who hasn't spoken in years.
Dar Adul aka Salieri - what's happened to him?
Fara - once an IT fraud geek, now an intrepid hands-on agent who doesn't keep enough of an eye on her bin bags.
Martha, the nice ambassador
Denis, her nefarious husband
John, second in command at CIA Lahore HQ, we're warming to him
Aayan aka Pi, now sailing the heavenly oceans with a tiger
Sandy, former CIA chief, now pushing up the daisies
Aasar Khan, aka Raza, aka Hot Spooks Guy
Bunran Latif, the General, aka Art Malik
Haqqani, the craggy Taliban leader who prefers to shag next to a bearded man chained to a radiator
Tasleen, aka one of the Kardashians.

Have I missed anyone?

whoneeds - hope you enjoy it, but you can't say anything to us on this thread about it!

I've just watched back, with subtitles. Carrie is in the middle car. Her car was pushed past the lead car, which was the first hit. The car with doors that opened after the first blast was the last car, which was then hit by the second rocket. I can't see any signs of people escaping from the middle car in those scenes.

Here is the Martha/Dennis scene:
D: Martha, what's going on?
M: there's some kind of ambush
D: Where?
M: out on the streets, I have to go
D: wait. Where have the marines gone?
M: to give assistance
D: all of them?
M: why not? Dennis, why not?
D: that's what she wanted to know.
M: who?
D: tasneem.
M: Tasneem is your contact? What did she want to know, tell me.
D: how Carrie Matheson got in and out of the embassy.
M: what did you tell her?
D: about the tunnel under the embassy.

OMFG! Just caught up while the boys nap, almost woke them with my yelps when the bombs hit What an amazing episode, it just gets better and better.

Damn you Tasneem Kardashian! I agree with the pp who said her character while evil and manipulative is so strong.

Dennis you monkey bum coward! Haqqani is going to eat your brains when he finds you.

Saul, poor Saul, he won't be able to live with the guilt his glasses were responsible for all this.

Come on Quinn....

Oohh that was brilliant. Poor beardy Saul. I know I used to think you were a baddy and to be honest I think you've done bad shit in your time but I do feel very sorry for you.

I could watch this whole series again - it's so fast-paced - I'm sure I'd pick up more nuances and links.

Thank you pseudo!

Who needs Brody? NOT US!

Ok - I'll hold my hands up to googling the cast list to find out if Tasneem is an actual Kardashian ..........

still have no idea what the Kardashian's actually do....

When I first heard the name I did honestly think they were from Star Trek. Then realised they were 'reality TV people' but am not in the UK so I don't l know anything more than that.

i had to go out for a Christmas Dinner last night (yes, really), so just caught up,on 4 OD. So tense.
Can't imagine the CIA are so stupid in RL as to send EVERYONE out of the embassy to have a look at what's going on " hey guys, let's go stand in the middle of a war zone...."
Will reorganise my entire weekend in preparation for next weeks episode.

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Caught up on the episode now so here's my belated ... OMG!!!!

How could they have survived that blast? How much of a coincidence would it be if Saul/Carries car was the only one not hit?
How can we carry on if they are severely hurt/dead??

Oh my days, this is all too much to bear. I'm dying to look up spoilers for next week but will sit on my hands and make do with discussing here.

For those who may have been wondering about the Urdu lines, when Saul was whispering to the sleeping, restless boy he said 'Everything will be okay'. (Sweet Saul ). And when the Pakistani embassy man (Bunny?) came to the prisoners in the hanger, he said 'Release them all/let them go.'

Any more translations needed, happy to oblige.

Also, in RL they would never send the whole lot of marines and leave the embassy unguarded. That was a bit . Although I think Quinn will suffice them all.

Just caught up
The prisoner exchange with the boy in bombvest was really tense and the xchange between Carrie and Saul brilliant acting....
So now we are going to see the embassy under siege if the tunnel has been breached and all the marines are elsewhere. Will it be up to Quinn to save the day(is he and the team still inside the embassy?)

The ending was very unexpected , but I do wonder how far they can keep going with this cycle: corruption:alliances:spying:distrust:blackmail:spooks:Isis:loyalties :treason:politics:diplomacy:war.
It is no wonder that nothing ever gets resolved or progress gets made, it is an endless cycle

We have to assume Carrie and Saul are OK because there's going to be a 5th season. That reassures me. I foresee Carrie rising heroically from her hospital bed and fighting the Taliban ninja-style with an arm in a sling and a bandage around her head. Possibly wielding a crutch. Just as we think she's a goner Saul will lurch forward, wild-eyed and wild-haired, and gun all the motherfuckers down.

Hassled St Saul and his manbag full of...AK47's

Omfg! Watched last night but only now getting chance to post. That was amazing! Ok- implausible but I totally forget about all of that as I'm so drawn into it. I cannot wait for next episode!

Hassled too!

If the released Taliban were with the group about to take over the embassy, then how did they get there so fast?

Just caught up with Sunday's ep.

OMFucking Fuck!!!

I think the phone was the trigger, but doesn't mean that Mira is in on it, it could just be that they'd homed in on his phone.

I also noticed how clean his specs were

Denis is a snivelling slimy coward. I forsee him begging Tasneem Kardashian for his life, and she won't give a shit about him.

She definitely showed her cards when she asked why wasn't Lockheart with them at the exchange. She wanted to take him too.

Can I have it on record that I have never believed Saul to be a baddie. He has kindly eyes. And he's Inigo Montoya.

Doesn't the whole Ayan Pi story seem like a different world away now?

Good god Aasar Khan is beautiful, and masterful and all that is good.

Quinn and Aasar Khan in a room. Sigh. Just realized that somewhere, on a film set in SA, this actually happens on a regular basis. Sigh... what I wouldn't give to be the dinner lady in that staff canteen.

But ..... What now? What next?

Dennis will die a cowardly death

What next? Quinn goes all black ops on the Taliban's ass

What if Quinn dies

TheDietStartsTomorrow so we have our very own translator - thank you so much

Sigh... what I wouldn't give to be the dinner lady in that staff canteen.

I'd rather be the make up artist, more opportunity to get up close and personal

Chandon. Noooo. Quinn will save the day and be re-vitalised. Think he's been a bit too subdued this season.

Lockhart wouldn't have left the embassy totally unguarded though, surely? There must be protocols in place. Mind you he is new and a political appointee rather than an old CIA hand. I just want Quinn to have some back-up.

Dennis is such a weasel. I hope he gets taken hostage and there's no sense of urgency to get him back.

I'd rather be the make up artist, more opportunity to get up close and personal

Or the wardrobe department...I once knew a girl who worked in the costume dept for a theatre company. Got to see all sorts of naked actors...

Quinn can't die. He'll re-find his mojo and kick some serious ass.