The Fall, Series 2

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Series 2 of The Fall begins on Thursday 13 November, 9pm on BBC2.

Here's the trailer. youtube

Paul got out of Stella's room whilst she was cleaning up her friend in the bathroom.

I just want him to get caught now. I feel uneasy about him being on the run for so long. Need him locked up. Can't take much more of this.

Yes, I do take tv dramas too seriously and need to remember its not true. But still. I want him caught. Now.

WTF with the babysitter??

I think that Stella already knows that they led him to Rose as she (Stella) called him Peter when on the phone to him.

So, has he killed Rose?

Two top detectives in the bathroom next door and PS slips out unnoticed. Good job they weren't sliding wardrobe doors.
My credulity has been stretched to breaking point
I cringed for Chief Constable knowing Spector heard every word of his pleading with Stella.
I'll still be watching the next episode though !

I can't help but feel he's setting up the babysitter in some way.

So many implausibilities ( Stella has known chief cop for years and years but has only just twigged he has been affected by The Troubles? Who leaves their baby in the car playing with the keys and their front door shut?) but still better than most other stuff on TV

Where is Rose now??

Lesbian scene SUCH a cheap shot i thought esp as featured token "lesbian" Good Wife actress.. Sigh. But, yes, still v gripped, much more so than with Missing which i just MN through

He MUST be setting up the babysitter, surely? I don't know for what, though. Also, does she now think he ISN'T the killer, or does she still think he is? What is she playing at? Is she just getting thrills at being 'involved' with a handsome older man who is just as manipulative and scheming as she thinks she is herself?

I rolled my eyes at Archie Panjabi being cast as a lesbian again. Loved the 'I'm not the waiter' 'Well then why are you standing there?' exchange though.

Question: today's Guardian review of this says Stella has been 'assigned a new deputy with possibly lesbian tendencies.' Isn't her new deputy that man? Or is the pathologist her deputy?

i'm not sure if the babysitter believes him or just wants to iyswim.

was his story at all plausible?

then of course he slated Stella, which the bs probably thought was great.

yeah the Stella/archie p kiss was

Initially I thought that Stella was putting it on just to get the bloke to piss off.

I'm losing my patience with this. Its looking more like cheap titillating misogynistic rubbish. And agree that the kiss was such a cheap shot if very hot I'm also getting tired of seeing Jamie Dornan walking around in his pants - ridiculous I know, but again it just feels cheap and unnecessary.

So much of the episode was unbelievable. Why would Stella just stand there when she saw a car coming up the drive, without calling out to colleagues or jumping in her own car, which she was standing right next to? And as for Mr Needy turning up at her hotel - she would have had him straight out that door the second he tried it on. I also hated the line 'why are women so much emotionally and spiritually stronger than men?' So clunky and patronising and sounds like nothing that a real person would ever say ever. Yuck.

Im' only still watching coz of Gillian really

Agrer, Lotta. Can't help fearing it's in freefall now to a rather naff/predictable/unbelievable/disappointing (delete as appropriate) ending.

I've forgotten what house they were at when he drove up & away?

But yes, nothing done immediately at a suspected crime scene(?) when a car approaches, turns lights off & sods off!

They were at the spot he had called from the night before. They mapped the call.

Just read that Guardian review, spot on, imho. And actually incensed that SO many decent series with strong female leads in series 1 (think Orange also), let them down so from thereon in? They become weakened, objectified. As if suddenly seen through a misogynist's lens.

Dogs, can you shed light on the Guardian's comment I ask about upthread? The one about her new deputy having possibly lesbian tendencies?

Just re-read it and can't see any such mention. Though maybe i missed it. Just v brief ref to their kiss.

I only got as far as half-way through the first episode of this series before turning it off.

My main problem is that it portrays all women as completely stupid.

Secondary to that is the storyline which looks like it was created by a game of 'Consequences'.

Genuinely surprised that it's being taken seriously at all.

If they were using the lesbian thing to titilate (sp?!) they could have gone much further. I just see it as adding to the thought that Stella is promiscuous and not fussed about relationships of any sort.

I don't think it portrays women as any more stupid than men.

Stella Gibson is not stupid. In contrast her police friend with the beard is a philandering drunk.

Paul's wife has not been stupid - she thinks her DH has cheated on her - she's kicked him out. She's pregnant. I'd say that takes courage. So far we've seen nothing to believe she's been following the news close enough to suspect her husband of being a serial killer. She perhaps should have reported him for sex with someone underage though...

The smart coroner is a woman. Rose Stagg is a smart doctor.

I think there's a real mix of characters, smart and stupid, and as real life shows people can be both interchangeably.

The lesbian deputy is mentioned in the Guardian newspaper. I suppose the reviewer (Lucy Mangan) was watching with half an eye. She has a small child to distract her.

Dogs, thank you for checking! I've got to the bottom of it: I see in the online version it says 'Stella has been given a new deputy-possibly-spy investigating officer and possibly lesbian inclinations' –but in my printed copy of the paper it says 'with possibly lesbian inclinations' .

Good work, Guardian subs.

I thought it was a bit that he could find her room number so easily but maybe not.

brilliant twists in the latest episode, I didn't see those turns coming.

I adore Stella in this, she is so languid and cool.

I bet in the cast bloopers she delivers lines so languidly that she fall asleep mid sentence or maybe slithers on the floor in a faint of languidness.

Love that terrible teenage strumpet!

I thought the pathologist was gay, oh no it was the young policewoman.....
I thought Stella might have learned her lesson after being papped in a bar only a few eps ago.

Finally watched.
Loved the bit where she snogged and took the cocktails, implying that he was the waiter. yes, I know it was cheap and cheesy, but I didn't care, still liked it.
When her boss said, he "was finished", he really is, with Spector listening, isn't he?
can't see where this is leading, what is going to happen next?!

It wasn't her room key, it was a skeleton key!

Re the car, maybe she didn't want to spook him? They don't really know who they're dealing with at this point and, as far as they're concerned, if they'd chased him he could have done anything: ran the car over someone, leapt out with a flamethrower ...

Also, less dramatically, we know much more than the characters do; to us obviously it's blindingly clear that it was him in the car, but to them it's much less cut and dried. I'd think they had to proceed with some caution.