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>>Jamie Oliver Return to School Dinners Ch 4 NOW! <<

79 replies

treacletart · 18/09/2006 21:02

just a reminder

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Nemo1977 · 18/09/2006 21:03

what a nightmare about the budget not changing.

treacletart · 18/09/2006 21:10

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aitch71 · 18/09/2006 22:04

say what you like about jamie oliver, that nora is a bloody marvellous woman.

hulababy · 18/09/2006 22:05

Missed most of this as DH had Spooks on. Hasn't Nora changed - she looks great! And yes, she is fab. Have her book and it's great.

Katymac · 18/09/2006 22:06

Is it repeated?

hulababy · 18/09/2006 22:06

I am hoping so.

aitch71 · 18/09/2006 22:11

i've got a dvd of it so if it's not repeated, i can get you a copy. but i'm sure it'll be on within the week.
i've met him, thought he was a tosser, but you can't really fault him for this campaign i reckon.

Furball · 18/09/2006 22:12

I think he's just been made minister of school dinners the way Mr Blair was talking to him. Lets hope he keeps his word.

Earlybird · 18/09/2006 22:12

why a tosser?

Furball · 18/09/2006 22:12

Tony that is, not Jamie!

Waswondering · 18/09/2006 22:13

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bonkerz · 18/09/2006 22:19

Must say that after watching this i am in total admiration of Jamie. He really is doing this for our children. he has sacrificed alot (and yes i know its probably done him alot of good as well) but i really cannot fault him for what he has done. Good on him!!!! I would be more than willing to pay £2 a day for my DS to have a proper cooked meal, but i am lucky that my DS LOVES proper food and veg!!!

aitch71 · 18/09/2006 22:22

quite rude, always looking over your shoulder for the more 'power brokery' person, rather patronising to the young people he brought into Fifteen, arrogant, distracted... gave you a couple of minutes of Jamie's special 'twinkle time' called you 'mate' a few times then sent you packing and you were supposed to think he was a sweetheart and write lovely things about him. met him again and thought much the same.

but on the other hand, why would he be anything but? look at the amazing success he's made of his life, and he's very young and so busy. so i don't think he's a bad person, far from it, in fact, but he's obviously going to be a far more complex character than the 'cheeky chappie' on the telly. and a bit of a tosser, imho. You just don't get to run your own kitchen, especially at that age and that status, without being a bit of a power-crazed twat. i applaud him, nevertheless.

cremolafoam · 18/09/2006 22:26

TB would promise anything at the moment- he's not going to be in charge this time next year.Sorry to be cynical but honestly -what a PR exercise.!

Think jamie is great though, yet, I don't let my dd have schooldinners as it is too expensive( £3.50pd) and i know what she has eaten/can control what she is having by giving her a packed lunch.Also she gets a home cooked meal at night.

SueW · 18/09/2006 22:37

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marthamoo · 18/09/2006 22:54

I think he's bloody brilliant. So there.

magicfarawaytree · 18/09/2006 22:55

I have a lot of time for what he is doing. I dont really think much about whether is is rude / nice etc. the reality is to bring about change you generally have to be hard. look at the scene where he say to the guy basically why has it taken so long to get to this point. and the guy say he didnt know that the place existed. that is exactly issue, people care but care does not always translate into drive to get things done. I would imagine with young people also you need to show them strong leadership to get them in the right direction. I remember the teacher I had most respect for was not the one with the nicest manner but the slightly stern but fair one. You knew exactly where you were with her.

marthamoo · 18/09/2006 23:02

But - there's always a but - I think he's in cloud cuckoo land with the matching up pubs/restaurants with schools thing. Before they even mentioned the hygiene in that pub I said to dh "what about food hygiene standards - has anyone checked that kitchen's OK" and, sure enough, five minutes later...it started to look like an episode of Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares.

And then at the big event in Lincolnshire he was gaily putting little dots on a map to match schools to pubs/restaurants and I just thought...all you need is one big outbreak of salmonella - that can kill small children...

I think if you are talking what are fundamentally profit-making enterprises, with no across the board standards (other than visits from Environmental Health) there's a huge risk they will start cutting corners in order to try and increase what is far less profit and mark up than they usually make. School kitchens - though they do have to stay within a budget - are not subject to the same pressures.

I think that's a non-starter - the schools need kitchens putting back in.

aitch71 · 18/09/2006 23:46

i didn't get the impression that he was rude from the tv programmes, i did meet the guy. if i'd watched the telly alone i'd think he was a saint. he isn't, but he's a mover and a shaker and he's getting things done so i applaud him for his efforts. never said anything different.

and with regards to the staff or Fifteen, i don't mean patronising in the manner of a stern teacher. what he did, much to the embarassment of everyone in the room i was in, was introduce his trainees (not the ones off the telly) and basically lay it on thick about how he had personally intervened in their lives to save them from lives of misery, drug addiction, crack whoring etc.

it was very much along the lines of 'let's not talk about how great i am, all you journalists, let's talk about young tracey here, who without me would be pounding the streets glassy-eyed and looking to score heroin.' Turns to Tracey, looking terrified in front of a press conference "Tracey, what do you think of me and the opportunity i have given you?"

Tracey was tongue-tied and mortified and so was everyone else. Still, the canapes were second-to-none...

bundle · 19/09/2006 11:18

thought some of his (terrific) message re: healthy eating for kids was diluted by him driving round in petrol-guzzling car (how big is his carbon footprint? or doesn't it apply to hampstead-dwellers?)

Freckle · 19/09/2006 11:29

I really don't think his message regarding healthy eating is diluted by the type of car he drives. He may live in Hampstead but, as can be seen by his programmes, he travels all over the place and it may be that a Range Rover is the type of car needed for the work he does.

Does this mean that, unless you adhere to every green tenet on the planet, no message you try to get across carries any weight? It's possible that he doesn't do everything he can to help save the planet, but I think he's doing enough by trying to save our children from an unhealthy future.

aitch71 · 19/09/2006 11:32

i noticed that too, bundle... although EVERYONE uses them on the telly so it rather makes me wonder if it's because in the back are a cameraman and a sound man (or women) and there's a producer in the front seat so they might need lots of room for equipment and such.
I always think the same thing on Who Do You Think You Are (renamed in this house Where Did You Get Your Car as they always seem to drive big black Land Rovers).

cod · 19/09/2006 11:32

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tribpot · 19/09/2006 11:35

I think the first ep is repeated on More4 next week, hope so as we recorded Spooks and I got in too late to watch this.

bundle · 19/09/2006 11:36

" it may be that a Range Rover is the type of car needed for the work he does. "

ahem

is he

a) a farmer
b) a builder

no he is an effin chef.

if he's going to be sanctimonious about what other parents choose to feed their children, then he'd better watch his ownbehaviour.

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