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TENNIS FANS! New thread -With bouncier balls and clean towels...

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Raahh · 24/03/2014 16:13

New thread for tennis fans, with or without the ability to watch on tv. Or even live and in person Envy Tennis

(When should we start pestering for our Tennis back?)

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MakeMineAMartina · 26/04/2014 18:36

can anyone answer this?
the Pretenders. pop band.

Didn't chrissie Hynde write a song about John Macenroe? one of their hits? which was it and is it true anyway?

JuanPotatoTwo · 26/04/2014 18:38

Gulbis out too. If Nishikori wins, I'll cry.

Glad you know where I'm coming from Raahh. Look what I bought today:

TENNIS FANS! New thread -With bouncier balls and clean towels...
JuanPotatoTwo · 26/04/2014 18:42

Don't know if she has already written a song about John McEnroe Martina, but he does play guitar on one of the tracks on her new album. She knows him through his wife I believe (Patty Smith).

Raahh · 26/04/2014 18:57

Juan GrinGrin

amazing! I cannot knit - my mum and gran are brilliant knitters. But we are all left handed, and my mum was never able to teach me properly. I made a jumper once, though never wore it. I can't even cast on nowBlush.

You will corner the market in yarn bombing tennis slebsGrin

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MakeMineAMartina · 26/04/2014 19:00

thanks.

im sure I read it somewhere. might google and see if I can find out.

MakeMineAMartina · 26/04/2014 19:04

ah, found it. don't know why I didn't think of google 1st!

^“Don't Get Me Wrong”

The Pretenders | 1986

A lively, throbbing, insistent beat paced Chrissie Hynde's declaration of the thrilling sensations she felt when in someone's proximity, glowing interwoven guitar and keyboard riffs mirroring her mood. While it seemed on the surface to be a love song, if a somewhat indirect one, Hynde said that she had tennis star John McEnroe in mind when she wrote it. "He was always getting in trouble in those days, but was such a nice guy when you got to know him," she reflected. "I imagined him singing it^

Raahh · 27/04/2014 16:14

Hmm Nishikori seems to be beating Giraldo easily.

Vamos Giraldo (they do speak Spanish in Colombia, don't they?)

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JuanPotatoTwo · 27/04/2014 16:46

Nishikori wins. Wrong result for me. At least Grigor won in Hungary.

It may be small but this is just the beginning:

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Raahh · 27/04/2014 16:50

Grin that's great! Today, and inch, tomorrow a christening outfit fit for a Serbian tennis players offspringGrin

Glad Dimitrov won, too. Never liked Rosol.

Looks like Nishikori didn't get much of a match, really.

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JuanPotatoTwo · 27/04/2014 17:05

Thank you Raahh - yours is the type of response called for as opposed to the sniggering ones of my dss From little acorns and all that :)

I don't mind Rosol really but I actively like Grigor so that's good result.

HarveySchlumpfenburger · 27/04/2014 17:40

I think that's a similar sort of wool that my mum knitted my socks from last Christmas.

Hopefully you can stick with the knitting longer than I did. I think my attempt to learn knitting last year stopped at about the length you have there. Although yours is much neater than mine.

Raahh · 27/04/2014 17:57

In primary school, I knitted a mouse. My teacher discovered the difficulties in trying to teach a leftie to knit, and let me free styleGrin. It was about a foot long when I finished and more holes than stitchesGrin.

I'm much better at embroidery. But you can't wear embroidered samplers Grin

So- a week for Rafa to sort his demons out. He's got 4000 points to defend over the next month and a half. Djok has a bout 900.

And there will be a new little Federer soon too- that's nice. I wonder if he will play if things happen during the tournament.

I suppose 'Daddy missed your birth because he was winning the French Open' would be a good excuse (though he won't as I haven't given up on Rafa!)Grin

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HarveySchlumpfenburger · 27/04/2014 18:28

I think I'd read that he would be at the birth even if it was during the French Open.

I'm not too bad with holes. My main problem is I never have the same number of stitches at the end of the row as I had at the start. I seem to manage to pick lots up.

magimedi · 27/04/2014 19:59

Fed has said he'll give up the French Open for the birth!!

I can't knit. I am not going to knit. I have not got the patience (as I am young, spry & alert Grin )

magimedi · 27/04/2014 20:00

Read today that many of Raf's problems are because he wants to split from Uncle Toni.

Raahh · 27/04/2014 20:35

Splitting with Tony would be big- but if Rafa's going to carry on competing against players who now have his game sussed, he needs a fresh coach. And someone to sort out his serve.

It must be a really hard decision- can't imagine Uncle T offering to go.

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Raahh · 28/04/2014 17:47
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merely to stop this thread dropping off TIO

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magimedi · 28/04/2014 17:58

Interesting thought from Simon Barnes (re Nadal) in The Times today:

" Nadal off the court has always been a cipher. A highly agreeable, deeply personable, usually charming fellow, but a cipher nonetheless. He seems to have modelled himself on a Labrador puppy, with two great aims in life: to chase a ball as if his life depends on it and to be loved by everyone he comes into contact with.

In short, he seems stuck in permanent adolescence: doing what his uncle and coach Toni wanted, eternally dutiful to his family, spending his life doing what other people want.

Now there are suggestions that he is at last getting fed up with it. He’s in great shape physically, but the unquenchable spirit that saw him to eight wins in the French Open seems absent. It’s as if the puppy, watching the ball sail away on its familiar parabola, said: “Sod this for a lark. Fetch the bloody thing yourself.”

Raahh · 28/04/2014 18:17

GrinThe labrador analogy makes sense.

It's a very interesting view- and I can see where it is coming from Maybe he feels like packing it in altogether. As a fan, I'd be gutted. But he's achieved such a lot, broken so many records. When the debate over 'Greatest of all time' he has one of the greatest claims.

But he's been at the top, and winning slams for years- and he is one of the hardest working, in terms of tournaments played, on the tour. At an age when 30 years ago many players were retiring, he's still there. i do think his problem appears to be a mental attitude one.

Maybe he just wants to retire to Majorca with his girlfriend and catch fish.

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magimedi · 28/04/2014 19:38

Surely (and I am not a great fan) GOAT has to go to Fed???

Discuss!

Raahh · 28/04/2014 21:14

magi- well, that's where the big debate comes in (mainly on Fed forums, it has to be said- very obsessed they areGrin)- but, within the time frame, and looking at various statistics (win /loss records in particular) Nadal has an edge. Of course, Fed has the record number of weeks at number 1, and more slams. Nadal theoretically has time on his side to surpass the slam record- at the end of last year, I'd have said it was very likely. Not so sure now. Certainly, the 2 of them, in the Open Era, are ahead of the pack.

FedFan forums are vicious. Grin

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Raahh · 28/04/2014 21:26

it's a really interesting debate-- because you are also contrasting 2 totally different players. Fed, all smooth (though a stroppy sod in his early years), monogrammed tracksuit alight aloofness, and Nadal, with a not very good serve, and a game that doesn't always look like it should win anything. But his energy and effort mean that somehow he does.

Federer has been dominant, and then started to decline- Sampras (who I hated watching) was about Rafa's age when suddenly he was not invincible anymore, and his wins were more sporadic.

Rafa's main problem- apart from his mental state- is his propensity to injury. Imagine how many slams he might have won without them?

I don't think we'll see a rivalry like theirs again for a while.
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JuanPotatoTwo · 29/04/2014 00:12

GOAT = meaningless title in my very exalted opinion! Is it to be measured purely by number of titles? Or by "best" player? Or by the "most successful" player? I mean Borg never won anything like the number of titles Fed, Rafa et al have, but plenty of people wd consider him the GOAT.

I too like the Labrador analogy :). There must be something in all this talk about Rafa wanting to leave Toni, I've heard variations on the theme in a few places. When you think about it, what sort of life has Rafa had really? Yes, he's wealthy and world famous, but at what cost? He didn't have any sort of a childhood, or at least not the sort I'd want for any of my dc. He's not had any time to himself. He's had to grow up centre stage with his every move being either criticised or revered. He's had to subsume any personal wishes/ambitions/desires.

I know he presumably agreed to go along with it all, but did he really understand what he was letting himself in for when, as a young boy, he turned his life over to Toni? If I'm honest, out of all the top players, he's the only one I feel really sorry for as he just seems to have been swept along. I think maybe now he's reached some sort of mental maturity where he's realising he can't go on this way, and there needs to be more to his life. I've read a couple of interesting articles about his development and relationship with Toni in the last couple of weeks - I'll try and find them and link tomorrow.

That is, I'll link if I have time - Im extremely busy with my knitting don't you know? Grin. Plus, people from my past seem to be coming out of the woodwork at a rate of knots. First my old school friend and now the stunner that everyone on Dh's course at uni wanted to get friendly with (except dh of course according to him :)) This is my OP from my thread in Chat:

*Dh had a friend at uni who was supposedly brainy, blonde, beautiful, sporty, blah blah blah. Unfortunately, I discovered a lot of what he told me about her was true when she came to our wedding. She was also very very nice. The last time we saw her was at her wedding to a ridiculously rich, handsome and very charming Italian 19 years ago.

They went off to live somewhere exotic but are back living in London now. She contacted Dh earlier today and we're meeting them for coffee in London on Friday morning. Think this meeting might be a sort of toe-in-the-water experiment to see if there's still enough in common to revive a relationship.

I'm actually really looking forward to seeing them, and they were very nice nineteen years ago! But but but I know she will be drop dead glam and bang on trend etc. I am neither of those things*

Raahh · 29/04/2014 00:23

Knit yourself an MN scarf, juan- they are very 'in' Grin

The GOAT thing is a bit silly- you really can't compare Laver and Borg, with Federer of Nadal, different equipment, playing styles, surfaces- it's not a level playing field, really. Then there is the pre-open era. Greatest of all time?- but I think it depends which 'time' is being defined.

But it is funny to see how animated (and downright nasty) some forums get on the subject. Personal attacks are definitely not banned on the ATP siteGrin

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Mama1980 · 29/04/2014 09:22

Thanks everyone for the supportive words. Thanks magi I had seen the thread but thank so much for taking the time to find it, it's very much appreciated.
Definitely stick with the knitting Juan, my sisters in law tell me being able to knit makes me amazing lol! (Could just be that they are heavily pregnant and want knitted stuff but still........Wink) go with making a scarf and they'll be dazzled by your skill Smile
Agree that the GOAT is a bit of a pointless debate as you're not comparing like with like.
I do feel sorry for rafa, as a fan I don't want him to retire obviously but I do think he maybe getting to a point where he wants/needs more in his life. Who can know or understand fully the consequences of the choices made as a child when he turned his life over basically to his uncle. It was his choice but in many ways he went in blind.
I would not want his life for any of my children. So I guess part of me hopes that yes he does decide he wants nothing more but to settle down with his beautiful girlfriend and fish. Rather than continue to play if it will not make him happy.

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