Walking Dead 4.2

[laraeo]

I really dislike Carl.

More so than usual.

I agree Daryl is almost asexual. I liked the idea of Carol and Daryl but more because I liked Daryl and transferring myself onto Carol iykwim. if he ends up with someone else that wouldn't bother me.

I thought the episode was quite good at overcoming the main criticism that is always hurled at TWD - it served to flesh out characterisation. I don't mind Beth, and if she dies, as she predicted in a moment of self awareness, then I do vaguely care about her as a result of her character being rounded out in this episode.

I wouldn't want to be drunk in a ZA but Beth wanting to, and then Darryl and her burning the house all seemed to me to make sense. In that at some point in the aftermath you have to decide to make your new life mean something, stand for something beyond just basic, minimal survival. Because if it is simply a never-ending Hobbsian nasty, brutish and short existence why would you keep going?

If the farm at the prison was an attempt to recreate their old pre zombie life, which was never going to happen then this seemed more of an attempt to create a new life.

Similarly I thought getting the clean clothes was quite a nice touch - you make a cursory effort toward normality only to be brutally reminded 'What's the point?. You are only going to end up with zombie brains splattered all over you again.

The 'rich bitch'/ class war thing was strange. They made such a point of it I assume they will come back to it later? I mean a zombie isn't going to bother to write the sign or lay out the bodies so humans did it but it looked like whoever did the killing knew enough to stop large numbers of them becoming zombies? (The laying them out etc).

Perhaps Beth will be the Andrew in Buffy. Everyone expected him to die but other more experienced and stronger fighters and characters died (anya, spike) and he survived.

Zombie apocalypse or not, if I was Beth I wouldn't look at Daryl like that.

At that age I would have thought Daryl was ancient. I was 17 when Bob Marley died at 36 and remember being a bit sad because I liked his music but he was 36. Actually, sad isn't the right word. It was more: 'Oh, I like Jamming, anyway.'

When Steve McQueen died at 50 I couldn't understand what all the fuss was about. He was old. So was Elvis at 42.

Unless Beth is looking for more a father figure? Hence her adoration of Darryl - plus apart from
Glen there are no young men in twd apart from coral and he's just annoying and too young for Beth

blondes beth had 2 boyfriends that died - think one from the farm and one from the prison. Pkus coral is 3 years younger than beth, darryls morr than twice her age.

Love 'Richonne'!!

Rick definitely appears to be downtrodden and vulnerable. His initial attraction was his strength which now seems to have disappeared. definitely agree with this - there was a moment when Rick was escaping from the house with the bad guys, and when he killed the one on the toilet and I though "Ooh he's actually quite good at this" as I'd sort of forgotten... he became instantly more attractive then.

(slightly worried that seeing him murder someone makes him sexier..)

If he can pull himself together and re-discover his mojo, probably with the help of Ninja Michonne, I think he'll be ok.

I think Beth is just finding herself a little, as she seems to have led a very sheltered life. Darryl represents the opposite of what she knows - a bad boy who has done lots of naughty stuff, and she's just curious I suppose.

I get really pissed off when people do the whole 'I don't need you, I can look after myself' thing on TWD. If I was in that situation, I would have identified who could look after themselves the best - i.e. Daryl, Michonne, Rick, Glen and stuck to them like glue even if they did piss me off. Same when Maggie stropped off away from her two new friends - just foolish!

bluefrench really? God I'm crap. Often miss/forget stuff

And agreed. If someone wants to look after me in a ZA they can ;)

Agree about the teenagers with old men thing. God, enough already. (And not just because Daryl and Carol are in love )

When faced with a knotty moral problem I find it useful to ask what Gwyneth Paltrow would do..

She was cast opposite Michael Douglas in a remake of Dial M for Murder. She was mid-20s and he was mid-50s.

In an interview she said her character was a rich man's trophy wife, so it was believable that she'd be with him, but agreed it was 'kind of creepy'.

She then added that Douglas was a friend of her parents and had known her since she was born so she really liked him.

He was apparently furious. And so was his trophy wife, who's a bit older than Gwynnie.

I can never work out whether she's a total ditz or uses it for cover when she wants to be a bitch

So loving Richonne! Totally agree that seeing Rick get all murdery made him more attractive. He needs to get back to his former self now they have no safe place.

I agree that Rick was suddenly very attractive in that episode. I have to admit that at the beginning I had a thing for him, more so than Daryl. I went right off him when he was having ishoos but if he's gonna get all violent again I might be interested yes, I am a bit worried why i find him more attractive after he's just killed someone I would have to give him a good scrub tho.

I will always love Rick, from his days as Egg in This Life. He's gorgeous.

Nothing a bit of shampoo couldn't sort out.

But the real reason I came on here today was to share this with you

Michonne Doll

Now, I'm a bit old for Barbie dolls, but I may have to make an exception

Omg I love the michonne doll! I want to buy it

The doll is brilliant. That's a one-off, isn't it? Why don't they make it?

I've had a Walking Dead board game for about two years - it's so old Shane, Lori, Dale and Andrea are not only still alive, but you can be them.

It's unopened because no one will play it with me . You can play it alone in Survival Mode but that would be too sad.

I might find someone to give it to as a present if they promise to let me come round and play. I really hope it's not disappointing but I fear it might be unless there were four of you and you were pissed on Daryl's moonshine.

I don't know whether there's a Daryl counter. There isn't a MIchonne one, which is probably just as well, because you'd fight over it like being the boot or the dog in Monopoly.

A WD board game sounds amazing! Lol what's the objective and can you be a walker??

The board looks like a cross between Monopoly and Cluedo,

Turning to the back of the box, or as it's called, the Zombie Apocalypse Survival Kit, the rules are...'as a survivor, you need to collect all the food, guns, transportation and allies you can find. But watch out! If any of your fellow survivors get bitten, they'll turn into walkers and turn against you.'

You can be a walker or a survivor and you can wear a badge saying I AM A ZOMBIE or I AM A SURVIVOR,

I might break it open just for the walker badge so I can wear it out today and try to make new friends.

Haha! Please do limited!

I can't imagine how popular you'll be - to really win people over don't forget to practise your accent.

"COOOOORRAAAAL" "LOOOORI"

I have a Walking Dead board game also Not sure it's the same one (it's buried under a couple of others and my Lego... ahem... ) as I don't recall getting badges with it! This makes me disproportionately sad.

I always play as Glenn. I would contemplate stabbing somebody with a fork for the option to play as Michonne though.

A WD game. How cool

Maybe we should do a mb meet and play it ;)

My game is officially sponsored by FX by Cryptozoic Entertainment chasingdogs.

I'm not saying that to pull board game rank btw I just want to see if it's the same one.

It was given to me by a PR who worked for FX (now called Fox) who was brilliant at those things. She'd organise parties - not particularly glam ones. Quiz nights where the prizes were sensational - TVs, tablets etc - Fox is very rich and she liked to spread the love. My team never won But I got pissed and well fed.

Also silly presents like the board game. I gave away a battery-operated figurine from Family Guy to a friend who liked the show. I don't watch it but I did warn him that I thought the voice track was a bit profane so he should play it around his kids at his own risk.

I've got a 20th Century Fox alarm clock with searchlights that goes: 'Der der der, Der der der der der der der der der der, Der der der der, Der Der der der, der der der der der der.'

Or it would if I put the batteries back in.

She's gone to a bigger and better job in Los Angeles and her replacement is useless.

I sent her the Michonne doll link btw. I bet she knows. She'd be good in a zombie apocalypse even though she's skinny as hell and wears unfeasible shoes.

Also chasing don't feel ashamed of the Lego.

I got a 3-D foam-backed jigsaw of the Empire State Building when I went to NYC. It's challenging because nearly all of it is tiny windows.

It's about 2ft tall when completed. And yes, it did have pride of place in my living room for quite a long time.

Oooh, maybe it is the same one! I have this one, although there is another called "Best Defense". And a Walking Dead Monopoly. And Risk. Time to back away from Amazon I think...

I have some awesome Terry Pratchett games as well, but nobody will play with me

I haven't done a jigsaw in ages. I'm oddly jealous off 2ft of little windows