Celebrity Big Brother Thread 2. Watching through our fingers.......

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Following on from here

Yes she did whisper it, so I think Dappy just guessed the number, unless Jasmine told him.

In fact from Jasmine's reaction to the number I think 5 is an under-estimate. Jasmine looked stunned, and she isn't the type to be stunned easily!

Let's not forget his delightful Twitter rant

Jasmine isn't someone I would trust to keep a secret, though. She doesn't seem that bothered about the feelings of others.

I don't think there were seduction techniques Anne. Didn't they get together after she sent him a message on MySpace? They message for a while and she sent him pictures of her tits or something. Then they met for a date

Sorry x-post

Oh it is all about how he is being portrayed again isn't it? Nothing is his fault. See he is still using the "sick of it" line. He needs to get a thesaurus.

YY Anne the twitter rant is classic Lee.

Yes she did look stunned I remember it well.

I'm still giggling to myself when I picture Dappy yelling out his GCSE results. I'm sure they were different each time Best CBB moment yet I think.

Abusive twat.

I guess that might add weight to the other story earlier this week when he was allegedly caught on camera on a webcam site.

Maybe I'm being stooopid and I'm not a diehard CBB fan, I just dip in and out.. BUT why does everyone hate Luisa so much? OK OK she (I think) has boasted about the number of men she's slept with in one night (I think... although was it whispered...) but Dappy is just a complete and utter berk isn't he?!
I expected to come on this thread and see Luisa as a hero for sticking up for women and their rights to sleep with who they want.... the same as men can. He was totally sexist and she told him so. I quite like her.
He just comes across as completely ignorant (as well as sexist)

Bear in mind I haven't watched all of CBB, I just happened to catch last night's row and I was "Go Luisa!"

was she an arse on The Apprentice Roussette? I think there were a few boos when she went in.

Rousette I agree, I expected people to be up in arms at the masoganistic language that was being shouted at her, just because she chose to do what she wants with her body without hurting anyone else. I can understand why she seems to be so hated. She can be annoying at times but she doesn't seem that bad.
Can't help wondering if people don't like her partly cos she is young, beautiful, smart, successful and sexually liberated. Possibly a threatening combination to some? But then maybe I am just not in the loop and don't know about whatever genuinely terrible things she has done in the past.

*cant understand

I think most people on this thread agreed that Dappy was being a sexist pig and totally out of order?

Dappy frightens me.

I'm just bumbling along thinking people are mostly okay and then I get this insight into a world where men think that some women are sperm receptacles who exist to have sex done to them, and the other women are their mothers who did it once in the dark with their husband and appear to be the ones feeding their sons this shit.

I found her just as a liberated woman on The Apprentice but I am not a great follower of all these shows so maybe I missed something.

I just find Dappy and his views very objectionable because it puts us back to Stepford Wives time. But hang on... he got a B in Drama so that's OK oh and he's never had an STD.. bravo!

Dappy was inarticulate but several times he said "if a man sleeps with 5 women in one night he is a pig".

Dappy only said this after Jasmine had. Before that he said a man could sleep with several woman but a woman couldn't as that made her a slag. He also said it was ok for him to have cheated on his ex but it was wrong of her to do the same. He also repeated several times what Evander his mum had told him about men being able to do what women couldn't and the other way round. Seriously he said all that misogynistic crap several times. He only said about men being pigs too once when everyone was there. He even spouted the same old crap to Linda and Lionel later on.

I don't like Luisa that much but Dappy was aggressive and sexist and if you asked me to choose I'd be team Luisa at the moment. I agree with everything qazxc said about Lionel and his double standards too. It was obvious to me that Luisa was joking as there was actual rib digging going on! No wonder she cried after the day she had had when Lionel and Jim had a pop at her. I also thought he was unbelievably fake when told them how pleased he was they made up - the group hug was cringey

Can't help wondering if people don't like her partly cos she is young, beautiful, smart, successful and sexually liberated

It really annoys me when this old cliche gets trotted out, because it is a crap argument.

In fact, Luisa used it herself in the Apprentice, saying people didn't like her because she was so beautiful.

No, the reason people dislike Luisa is because she is a bully (see The Apprentice) and a shit-stirrer. She can also give it out but can't take it back.

What she looks like is irrelevant, it is her behaviour that people object to.

He actually said several times that it was wrong for both men and women, and just that the names for men and women were different when it was shown on CBBBOTS. It was heavily edited on CBB.

I am not supporting Dappy, by the way, he is a tosser. However, Luisa put words in his mouth.

I agree with Linda when she said Luisa was out of order too.

Lionel is playing a part in the house, he is a sleaze bag in real life.

However, he was right to call her on her ageism, she said it several times inside and outside.

The group hug - well, Luisa was just playing the game as Jim advised her to do, she didn't do it off her own bat. I think Lionel saw this after Linda spoke to him, so played the game too. It was a whole ball of fake.

I know, never had an STD. Brilliant.

If I saw that on someone's dating profile I'd definitely email them.

Lionel was right to pull Luisa up, but something told me his anger at the comment was less than the joy he felt at the chance to create a moment for himself.

And Linda's peacemaking role is getting on my nerves.

I dislike Luisa as she shrieks like a banshee and treats people as accessories to her cause rather than humans with feelings. And she can't cope with it, when people point out to her how she is behaving and what double standards she has.

No matter how much of a point she has, its lost in the way its delivered. I would feel the same if it was a man doing the same thing too. Its the aggression and the attitude that are the problem not the message.

Both Rat Boy and Luisa did themselves no favours in the way they acted in that argument. In the end the argument wasn't about whether what was said was sexist. It was about egos and getting on over on the other. The psychologist who said about the ladder idea on Bit on the Psyche was bang on. Nappy definitely has 'small man syndrome' and Luisa has 'Everyone picks on me and doesn't respect me because I'm a girl syndrome'.

Neither of them are pleasant.

I saw both shows Anne and can't agree I'm afraid. I don't think he was saying it was disgusting for men at all.

Is Dappy actually a man? How old is he? He comes across as a daft boy with his trousers hanging down, bragging about GCSE results and following someone around, then listening at doors (when Luisa was in the diary room) To me he is all that is wrong with the sleb culture