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'Bedlam'- ch 4 Next week (thursday)

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Tiredemma · 25/10/2013 20:16

www.channel4.com/info/press/programme-information/bedlam

looks interesting - hope that it is an attempt to reduce stigma/raise awareness as opposed to possibly being a tv 'show' that people can mock and take the piss out of.

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Tiredemma · 31/10/2013 21:04

Bump!

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NoArmaniNoPunani · 31/10/2013 21:05

I'm watching

DameEdnasBridesmaid · 31/10/2013 21:33

Me too. Poor James - was that his mother we heard screaming and swearing at him? If it was, no bloody wonder he's anxious.

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Tiredemma · 31/10/2013 21:36

I could cry for james. He is tortured.

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Anniemousse · 31/10/2013 21:49

So interesting. And so heartbreaking.

Rollergirl1 · 31/10/2013 21:51

i'm watching. I'm sorry but the guy who said that having an instant thought about running over children in the road being normal, it is not normal!

What's with all the paedophile stuff? Are they saying that lots of people with OCD/anxiety have worries that they are paedophiles? I don't understand this at all. If someone has these kind of thoughts then isn't it something more than just OCD?

Anniemousse · 31/10/2013 21:56

I think it is is sort of fantasy rather than an actual intended idea, IYKWIM?

I can sort of understand what he means.

For me I think of shouting out during inappropriate moments eg minute silence, jumping off bridges, kicking someone up the bum when they bend over.

These aren't actual intentions or serious thoughts, but things that occur to me, which I dismiss. I consider myself to be sort of normal.

Anniemousse · 31/10/2013 21:59

That sculpture is horrible Confused

Rollergirl1 · 31/10/2013 22:08

But someone who ponders doing something sexual with a child, whether it is an actual intention or an unwanted thought or whatever, surely that then goes beyond the realms of OCD? It is going in to sociopathic territory.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 31/10/2013 22:11

They aren't pondering over doing something sexual they are scared that they might get the idea that its a good idea. It's the fear that you might suddenly turn evil even if there's no evidence you will.

BettyBotter · 31/10/2013 22:12

Rollergirl you are wrong.

OCD is made up of obsessive thoughts (such as the fear of being a paedophile) and compulsion (such as the classic hand washing rituals).

You are probably more familiar with the compulsive side of it as this is what we 'see'.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 31/10/2013 22:12

It's the same as being scared that you might suddenly decide its a good idea to hurl yourself off a ledge as you walk past it.

Rollergirl1 · 31/10/2013 22:23

Okay, i stand corrected. I didn't mean to offend. So is the fear of being a paedophile a common thing then?

BettyBotter · 31/10/2013 22:39

Well, for people with OCD the fear of the most worst thing you can imagine is common (hence the doctor on the programme explaining that the mind takes you to the lowest/ worst thing possible.) In our society at the moment paedophilia is one of the worst, also murder, incest, rape etc.

I knew a man with OCD whose fear was of writing something terrible or abusive so he tried to avoid all pens and pencils.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 31/10/2013 22:42

I think that what the psychiatrist was saying was that it is at the moment because its the worst thing you can be according to society at present and these people are scared that they will somehow become the worst thing possible.

It's good to ask these questions, much better that they are out in the open cos if you are thinking them then 10s of thousands will be too. It's by far better to ask them openly than to wonder.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 31/10/2013 22:43

Betty is putting it better than me :)

Space2000 · 31/10/2013 22:51

As pp's have said its the worst thing that's going on at the moment. So ie paedophilia (sp). In the 80s people with this type of OCD or similar would obsess about contracting HIV/AIDS as that was in the media a lot then

OhYouBadBadKitten · 31/10/2013 22:53

And for a while it was radiation or alien abduction that was the thing in the media.

Helpyourself · 31/10/2013 23:02

I found it wonderful! I suffer from what I thought of as pretty severe anxiety, and to see the germs of it in what really is severe was humbling and 'proportionalising'; also the treatment- what the OCD bit of me would say to me and the 'riding the fears' seemed very practical.
I'm actually in a situation at this very moment that has had me crying and sleepless in anticipation; I'm coping very well. Grin
Flowers to all who participated.

MostWicked · 31/10/2013 23:20

Fascinating programme and such an insight. I am so glad that the people featured were able to make progress, particularly James.
I thought the process they were using to treat them was very interesting.

KathrynKampbell · 01/11/2013 16:03

God. I'm watching it now and that bit with the screaming at him :( . I feel so grateful for my parents now and the strength and understanding they give me when I get ill with OCD. If they had spoke to me at my low points or when I was stuck in a cycle of OCD like the way she shouted at him, I don't think I'd be here anymore.

BurlyShassey · 01/11/2013 17:50

Dameedna I thought same as you regarding the mum shouting at poor James. that wasn't helping at all.

Id NEVER call my child stupid and run them on.

DC and I have OCD and a lot of things resonated with me.
agree the statue was scary.

I get those feeling too when its like your in a ahigh building and your at the window and th thought crosses your mind of jumping. things like hat. or near a clifftop or a balcony.

part 2 next week.

at last people are helped a lot more now and not shut away and ridiculed like in the olden days

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Tiredemma · 01/11/2013 22:15

I loved James. Really hope he is getting on ok now at uni.

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Privatebanker · 02/11/2013 06:04

I actually took it that the mum-screaming-bit was fictionala bit like a dream sequencethere was an arty shot of him lying in the grass. He had been a drama student. Maybe it was his attempt to "film" what his ocd felt like? The programme did not explain or comment on that bit, though. I don't think it was his mum's actual voice/opinion.

KathrynKampbell · 02/11/2013 10:43

I think it was real. OCD takes its toll on family and friends and I think that was how they decided to show it.