1949 benefits programme on C4 now..who is watching?

[Allthingspretty]

anyone?

[smokinaces]

Karen for me is the typical attitude of entitlement that some people "on the sick" have. Sadly.

[ImNotBloody14]

how is fake nails woman able to sit there facing that woman with the missing hand and tell her she doesn't want to give the work a go because she is tired!?

[Shinyshoes1]

I enjoyed that'. It was a real eye opener .

I shall be watching next week

[EeTraceyluv]

It was obvious why she was chosen of course, but people are going to be even more riled by what they perceive as 'benefit types' now because of her.

[smokinaces]

It was when she was arguing in front of Craig that she needed more help than him as he only had a wheelchair and she was more disabled!

[Wannabestepfordwife]

So pleased Craig got a job he really deserves it!

Melvyn broke my heart when he pawned the watch. It was so sad to see him deteriate so quickly

[FlouncyMcFlouncer]

I think that's probably why she didn't give the work a try. Because if she'd been seen on national tv able to work, her claim would've been totally stuffed.

[ImNotBloody14]

ok- proper crying now Melvin has his watch back

[Bruthastortoise]

Worth pointing out that Craig most likely wouldn't qualify for ESA hence why he was on JSA. Karen almost certainly would.

[WetAugust]

I think you're right Flouncy. I think she realised she'd bitten off more than she could chew there.

But the fact remains that whatever we think of her behaviour or work ethic she has been determined by 'the system' to be unfit for work.

[usualsuspect]

I believe it's called prpaganda.

And you fell for it, suckers.

[OrangeJuiceSandwich]

I love the fact Craig was described as 'disabled' and Karen was described as 'a disability benefit claimant'. Says absolutely everything.

[WetAugust]

Craig would have qualified for Incapacity Benefit in Youth which was awarded without any NI contributions having been paid. When IB was replaced by ESA he would have transferred to ESA.

[WetAugust]

Sure usual. Absolutely everyone is totally genuine and entitled.

[Bruthastortoise]

Why propoganda, usualsuspect? I watched it as a damning indictment of the early welfare state and a warning against the current gov't policy which seems to seek a return to that.

[Bruthastortoise]

WetAugust if Craig's "only" limitation is the fact that he's a wheelchair user he most likely wouldn't qualify for ESA. Unless he has other physical limitations which weren't immediately obvious.

[usualsuspect]

She was entitled.

[MrsHelsBels74]

I enjoyed it but couldn't understand why miss nails was getting so angry.

[alemci]

that women was really annoying and particularly awful when she compared herself to craig and seemed to think she was more deserving not. he was probaly born that way. wondered if her son worked

also how does she think that she doesnt have to work anymore and has paid enough in. other people have to work til they are 65. I think ahe could do some work and has got a mindset she cant. why does she need that huge car.

[WetAugust]

True - on the abolishment of IB in youth he'd have been reassessed and awarded JSA / ESA in the working group or ESA in the support group.

[ImNotBloody14]

I have to say I agree with usual- they made it very clear at the end that the 1949 system was one that 'worked' where the 2013 system didn't. but as I said earlier- typical channel 4 shite.

[RandomMess]

Of course in 1949 nowhere as many people lived long enough to get the state pension nor did they receive it for very long...

[GobbySadcase]

I refuse to watch it. It's propaganda which ultimately will lead to people's perceptions making my life harder than it is now.