Top of the Lake. Mmmm....

[partystress]

Weird but has me hooked. Anyone else watching?

Merguez interesting re Jonno's DNA, when Robin found out she was Matt's child she seemed willing to carry on their relationship regardless ("hello, brother"). It seemed from the scene with her that Tui's mother was totally cut out, but then I don't think Campion wanted to make room for any women on the inside, iyswim, or particularly wanted to explore that part of the story

The ecstasy scene was so funny womma! especially to those who have taken it

I missed the roadblock scene mostlyLoving, I wonder if that's what should tip us into understanding Al falsified the DNA, along with Matt's ED, though that is ambiguous, since he says he can get it up with drugs...

I think the fact we didn't see the mother much showed just how neglected Tui was in general and there for an easy target.

Yes - i think that a combination of Matt's failure to provide a sample, his impotency and Al's need to cover his tracks all leads us to believe that the dna results were fake, and that Matt was not the father of Tui's baby, though of course enough room is left for it still to be possible. I don't think that Johnno was Matt's son though. At one point (I think when Johnno rescued Robin from the boat) Matt said to him 'you are no son of mine'. I wondered at the time if this had greater significance.

But the fact that Matt refused to produce a sample for DNA isn't relevant - they could have taken the DNA from his dead body.

But I do think the audience was supposed to infer that the DNA results were faked, and Al was the real father of the baby.

Deleted series from recorder as soon as I finished watching it (didn't want dc finding it) and now wish I hadn't because I'dlike to watch it all over again to see if it makes more sense.

Some good comments on Guardian blog too ...

Finally watched the last 2 episodes. Feel very odd. We all knew Al was a baddie, but some things just don't add up. Assuming they aren't supposed to.
Not even sure if I enjoyed it.

I've just caught up on the last two episodes as well. I think Matt was the father of Tui's baby and the test results were correct. His denial that Tui could possibly be pregnant and his shock when he saw the baby was strange and maybe sometimes he just couldn't face what he'd done to his daughter and preferred to live in denial.

His grovelling and punishing himself at his mothers grave was never explained unless he had done something really terrible. So at the times he did face what he'd done he truly hated himself. Maybe the guilt also caused his impotence.

Assuming Al was getting the drugs from Matt would he really use them on Matt's daughter? At the end when the other children were downstairs being abused, Tui was left upstairs asleep on the sofa. Perhaps even with Matt dead Al didn't go back on that arrangement.

I do think Al was brilliantly portrayed. For most of the time he was charming and likeable. Then you got the glimpses that he wasn't honest. But right to the end I thought he was just weakly turning a blind eye to the corruption that existed in the community. A bad cop, but not totally a bad man. I suppose it shows how easily evil can be disguised.

I wondered about Tui being left asleep upstairs on the sofa. But that could be explained by the fact she'd just had a child, not exactly child porn material for a while :(

Maybe it was because Tui wasn't meant to be there? The others had been chosen by Al's 'clients' (when in the café), whereas Tui decided to go along with her friends after Al visited the women's camp with the other kids in the car.

I feel I want to watch it again to pay more attention to all the cafe scenes

I am fuming. I was in the process of watching all the Top of the Lakes on bbc iplayer (I was up to episode 4) but now they have taken all the programs off and only available to purchase on DVD!!! Grrrrr..... I will be lost won't I? The next episode is what, episode 6?

Www.tubeplus.me - yes it's in 7 episodes but you'll be able to find where you were.

Thanks SO much!

you're welcome

Lots of good stuff on that site though of course never use myself as is probably illegal