The White Queen

[ShadeofViolet]

Anyone else ridiculously excited?

I know Philippa Gregory's books tend to be a bit Barbara Cartland in places, and I hope the BBC havent increased it, but I still cannot wait to watch it.

[nipersvest]

i spotted the zips and clothes pegs last week, am finding the bad costume and set design distracting from the story now, everything is just too clean for the 1400's. it looks like it's been made on a shoestring budget but i have read it's cost the beep millions to put together.

[Alconleigh]

Margaret Beaufort was 13 when she had Henry VII. He is a small boy in this, but that actress is 30 if she's a day, surely.

[Arisbottle]

They are blending both of Gregory's books, red and white queen.

[nipersvest]

those cards with pictures on elizabeth's mother was using looked like they'd been drawn using ye olde felt tip pens.

[Ellenora5]

I'm getting confused to be honest, James Frain throws me completely, I keep thinking he is Cromwell, why does Margaret Beaufort not live with her son

[Ellenora5]

And who is his father

[MsFanackerPants]

His father is Edmund Tudor who is dead. He lives with Jasper Tudor, his uncle and Margaret Beaufort's brother in law. She is remarried to Henry Stafford.
The age of Margaret Beaufort is annoying me as are the very clean white interior walls next to so many candles. Not a trace of soot!

[ShipwreckedAndComatose]

His father was Edmund Tutor, Jasper Tudor's elder brother. He married Margaret when she was about 13 but died a few years later. Elizabeth had to remarry for political reasons and her son was given over to Jasper to raise.
later on, it became important for Jasper to get Henry out of the country as he was the only Lancaster claimant left

[HesterShaw]

THIS IS SO BAD

I adore this period of history. The dialogue is stupid and clunky and clumsy.

[Arisbottle]

It is very badly acted as well

[Cherrypie32]

Has she now had 3 daughters and if so, and therefore a period of 5 years or so have passed why was Henry Tudor the little boy still the same age? Am I being daft?

[MummyMastodon]

Eh? we saw Margaret Beaufort's son, a little boy. Then several years pass, Elizabeth has three girls, her sons from her previous marriage grow up quite a bit (new actors), but we then see Margaret Beaufort's son again, and he's still the same little boy...

[KikeriFreedomCastle]

I'm guiltily enjoying it. But it is bad, I agree, and lack of attention to period detail. Better than the books, though, which are really not very well written, but also vaguely entertaining.

[MummyMastodon]

x post, Cherrypie, I was thinking I must have missed something, but I'm sure that was what happened.

[ShipwreckedAndComatose]

Classic

[nipersvest]

margaret beaufort and her husband travel for miles to visit her son, and while they are there, her husband receives a letter??

it seems horse powered royal mail was very efficient back then?!

[Cherrypie32]

Glad it's not just me Mummy! Very bizarre continuity error surely

[MalenkyRusskyDrakonchik]

Letter post was very quick, FWIW.

[ShipwreckedAndComatose]

I can't help feeling they really haven't thought this through.

Too sloppy. Nice to look at. But too sloppy.

[Ellenora5]

Oh thanks girls, think I have it now, well until the little lad that never grew in three years was on again, and Elizabeth had 3 daughters in three years yet it looks like at least two years between each one, hmmm, not sure I will be following this and I was so looking forward to it last week, also I agree it looks like the whole set has been doused in domestos.

[AndiPandi]

And Elizabeth had nail ran ish on?!

[AndiPandi]

Sorry ail varnish

[AndiPandi]

Bollocks! Nail varnish

[minnehaha]

Agree with HesterShaw - this is ABYSMAL
Shocked at the praise for this f**king mess of a programm.e

[Pleasenomorepeppa]

I was impressed by Elizabeths french manicure & baffled by the non ageing Henry Tudor. I'm glad it's not just me noticing these things!
I kept thinking French & Saunders were going to pop up doing one of their parodies .