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EASTENDERS thread..

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SoleSource · 05/02/2013 19:45

You watch Easties?

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ChocsAwayInMyGob · 17/07/2013 08:33

But Twllbach- it wasn't Ian's fault he had a breakdown. It was mental illness. If it was physical illness would Lucy have been more sympathetic? She has resented him for having a total nervous breakdown. What a cow! Hardly his choice.

TwllBach · 17/07/2013 09:05

Oh I know it wasn't his fault at all and I think if Lucy was maybe older than I would think she was utter bitch for resenting him. As it is though, I think for an 18 year old that has been constantly let down by her father, and most other people in her life in true 'Stenders style Grin it would be pretty natural for her to feel a deep seated resentment for the ultimate let down.

She probably doesn't have the greatest understanding of mental health anyway, and maybe to her it was almost like a choice he made. He chose to succumb and run away just because Mandy left him. She was saddled with a hell of a lot of responsibility - don't forget she wasn't exactly a family girl in the first place. She got rid of her baby so she didn't have to raise it and now she's got bobby and a house and three businesses. And initially, no one knew he was having a breakdown, everyone thought he'd just done a runner, so already she would hate him.

I would have hated my dad at 18 if I thought he had just done a runner. Also, I think Lucy is quite vulnerable an it was easier for her to go for full on hatred than to admit that she was sad/hurting/scared.

Once she realised it was mental illness, didn't she do the right thing by removin him from a position of responsibility? Fine she could have asked him, but he was mentally ill and surely couldn't make the responsible decision? It's almost like when they had to section jean, they didn't ask her because she would have said no bit it was the right thing to do. In a way she was protecting herself and bobby because if he had left them to Ian he could have ruined them all.

I think she showed remarkable strength for an 18/19 year old - bearing in mind she was being intimidated by Derek as well.

I also think that's why she's so into Joey. He's clearly capable of looking after himself and her and cares deeply for Alice - his family. She thinks she would be safe with him.

Obviously I have a) an unhealthy obsession with eastenders and b) FAR too much time on my hands Blush

cheerfulweather · 17/07/2013 09:13

Blondes, Peter (well the actor who plays him) is actually older than Joey. Early twenties, at least!

Did Lucy seem like she was going to give back the businesses to Ian at some point in the future, I'm not sure. She never seemed like temporary custodian, always calling them 'my' business.

I think Lucy is unlucky with blokes, and comes across as a bit desperate. One of Fatboy's friends she was similarly infatuated with, and very upset when he also preferred somebody else.

I'm quite liking Shirley as an interesting, and even comedy, character at the moment.

cheerfulweather · 17/07/2013 09:14

I remember Max from some old drama years ago, I'd forgotten he had red hair.

ChocsAwayInMyGob · 17/07/2013 09:15

Twll- a) so have I and b) I really should be doing something else!Smile

I agree with your diagnosis Dr Twll, and I also see that the writers are making her into a right mardy cow in order to create conflict. Let's face it, a dutiful caring daughter is lovely but makes for dull TV.

I do think that now however, Ian is not stealing from her, rather he is gaining his business back now he is recovered. Whilst it must be hard for Lucy to hand it all back over after being so dedicated, I do agree with him taking it back.

However, she does deserve some credit, and maybe she ought to get some flash job title out of it, but on the other hand, she probably can't be trusted now she is pissed off.

TwllBach · 17/07/2013 09:23

Pfffff hells yeah, if I was Ian I would be booking her a one way ticket somewhere far away. This has all the makings of A Vengeful Daughter storyline, coming to a head at Christmas. Ian should be very, very scared.

ChocsAwayInMyGob · 17/07/2013 09:37

Twll- yeah, she'll do his other hand! Smile

Blondeshavemorefun · 17/07/2013 13:25

Twil - great insight about Lucy - yes she needed to do something but she could have given them back to Ian

Peters a real man - well in 20's - hmmm so allowed to have a slight crush on him then :)

Speed dating in the Vic?? Paying £5 for the privilege of your neighbour to pull you - not surprised Shirley took her money back

Tho Kim got lucky !!!!

70isaLimitNotaTarget · 17/07/2013 14:54

cheerful did you watch "Crime and Retribution" years back?
There was a little girl, a doll, a dad in a long leather coat and IIRC the bloke from Nottinghill (the flatmate not Hugh ) played a predatory paedophile.

Max was the young policeman who found the little girl Sad and yes he had a good head of red hair.

TwllBach · 17/07/2013 17:13

Thanks Blondes, I did psychology AS Level, dontchaknow Grin

cheerfulweather · 17/07/2013 23:04

Ooh no crushes on Peter, Blondes Grin I think even Max would be preferable, I just think he is 'nice'

Yes, 70isalimit, I think that was it! Old fashioned (now) crime drama it was.

garlicagain · 19/07/2013 22:34

Blimey, I couldn't disagree more about the Ian-Lucy story. Ian is a selfish arse, always has been, still is. Lucy could have a whole Stately Homes thread all to herself!

Laughed my socks off when Tiff's First Love turned out to be Bobby Beale! It was a classic moment. Can't wait for Michael and Janine to get it on again - I think it's going to take a while. How big are Scarlett's supposed feet???!!!

Shortbutsosweet · 21/07/2013 12:42

Tiff and Bobby!
Wtf east endears more kissing cousins
First Lauren and joey and now these two.
Ian is bianca's uncle, so the kids are cousins

valiumredhead · 22/07/2013 21:00

Crying laughing at the notion of Kim's b and b only being 60 odd quid a week. No wonder they all live thereGrin

Airwalk79 · 22/07/2013 22:12

A B and B near London for a tenner a night. Now Tracey in corrie has given Amy £5 for a school dinner!

Blondeshavemorefun · 22/07/2013 22:22

£60 a week? Stupid - but explains how everyone can afford to stay there and half the square go there when argue with their oh/family

Young love - BOBBIE and tiff - so cute - pmsl

Tho bisexual is related to Ian somehow - so least keeping it in the family :)

Blondeshavemorefun · 22/07/2013 22:23

Bianca even Grin

valiumredhead · 22/07/2013 22:24

5 quid?Shock she should go to Roy'sGrin

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cheerfulweather · 23/07/2013 00:35

I wondered how they all managed to afford the B & B. Bonkers!

Blondeshavemorefun · 23/07/2013 03:48

Sinister trying to work it out but sure she is - even if by marriage

Her dad and nan - ie David and pat - Ian used to call pat nan

Wasn't Ian dad PETE , David's half brother which makes Ian biancas half uncle

Shortbutsosweet · 23/07/2013 08:19

Lol blondes bisexual Grin
I got too much time on my hands having watched east endears from the beginning, so I remembered Ian and David are brothers and his ex wife number 1 had a fling with wicksy also his brother and David.
Cheapest rents in whole country surely! I'm moving to Walford Envy
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TwllBach · 24/07/2013 09:06

I loved jeans little speech to Kat about wanting to be loved.

I also really think Michael is amazing. They're both such hostile people but you can see how he is constantly battling to lower his guard for the benefit of his daughter.

valiumredhead · 24/07/2013 13:12

Michael is a great character, worth watching just for him imo. He was great on This Life too.

Shortbutsosweet · 24/07/2013 20:07

I agree I think Micheal is amazing!
Best character by far

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