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TV show decisions that are just WRONG - I'll start with the West Wing.

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LRDtheFeministDragon · 03/11/2012 18:00

There must be loads of these. I'm sure ER is not in fact a Bible to medical correctness (say it isn't so!).

The one that bugs me is the bit the West Wing where the President breaks out into Latin. It makes me cringe. It's bad, bad Latin (IMHO).

And also - of course - the fact Toby never gets a chance to clear his name. I love Richard Schiff for explaining he played it assuming Toby was covering for someone, which is great explanation of a frustrating storyline. But I never believed Bartlett (who seems to me so good at accepting people's different points of view) would have judged him so quickly.

Is there anything that bugs you massively? Either for being factually wrong or just not fitting your sense of the characters.

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CaseyShraeger · 05/11/2012 12:57

It wasn't just the look on his face - it was everything else around it. Seemed to me like a classic case of "making a wish but not being careful enough about your phrasing". But I like that there are different ways to read it (even though they make a big difference to how you perceive surrounding events).

FairPhyllis · 05/11/2012 13:02

It is easier to do that on a drama than on a multi-camera sitcom like Frasier. The X Files managed to do it quite well with Gillian Anderson's pregnancy (although being the X Files, it couldn't resist the opportunity to do a quick mystical alien pregnancy).

ScrambledSmegs · 05/11/2012 13:41

'Belly double"? I wonder how you end up making that career choice?

MooseLooseaBOOtThisSpookyHouse · 05/11/2012 13:54

The Gilmore Girls - Lorelai and Christopher getting married.

I am just starting my annual friends watching and am already getting annoyed about Joey and Rachel. I'm only on episode 3.

Trills · 05/11/2012 13:58

Rory got a bit pathetic about her boyfriend, didn't she? He didn't seem that great, TBH. What was his name, even?

MooseLooseaBOOtThisSpookyHouse · 05/11/2012 13:59

Ugh Logan.

Yes, I hated that whole relationship. He held all the power and turned her into a meek thing who would do anything to please him.

The whole show got a bit rubbish at the end really.

fraktion · 05/11/2012 14:04

They should have just written it in (although Bones is not a good example of that).

The whole last season of Angel was dire. I shouldn't have given into temptation and watched it.... In fact I struggle to think of a series, with the exception of ER, where the last season has actually been good. WW had the potential to be good but some crappy decisions, as discussed upthread ruined it.

MardyArsedMidlander · 05/11/2012 14:06

Nathan Fillion as Angel- Fuck. That would have been AMAZING.
I must be the only person who prefers Tara to Willow. Tara was far too good for her. And why couldn't Willow be bisexual?

LRDtheFeministDragon · 05/11/2012 14:09

I know, right?!

WTF was wrong with them, did they just want DB to make neanderthal jokes about?

I don't get the bisexuality issues on American networks in general - I know that Grey's had problems with presenting Callie as bisexual because the network didn't like it and Shonda Rimes had to write in a second 'surprise lesbian lover' character to push her point across.

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LRDtheFeministDragon · 05/11/2012 14:09

(I love me saying 'American networks' as if we're so much better over here. Hmm)

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GetOrfAKAMrsUsainBolt · 05/11/2012 14:11

Sorry LRD - I wasn't moaning about the buffy Angel convos. I just wished I had watxhed it at the time!

And yes you are right about Friends caricatures! I still love the show even though I moan about it all the time.

TheDoctrineOfSnatch · 05/11/2012 14:12

GetOrf, it's never too late to watch Buffy...

LRDtheFeministDragon · 05/11/2012 14:13

Goodness, you'd be entitled to moan if you were! I can rant for England about the things I love, it's ridiculous.

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FairPhyllis · 05/11/2012 14:22

I haven't seen the 3rd season of Veronica Mars but I have it on good authority that one of the major antagonists of the season is a group of caricature college campus feminazis who, it is hinted, fake rapes in order to try to shut down a frat. Because of course that is what feminists on campus would do Angry.

I don't want to sully my enjoyment of the show, so I don't think I'll watch it.

CaseyShraeger · 05/11/2012 14:25

IIRC from the commentary they cast David Boreanaz because virtually every woman in the production office went all weak at the knees over his audition. So I guess Nathan Fillion must have been having an off day... (although would have tarnished mental image of NF if I'd ever had to listen to him do a strangulated "Irish" accent. At least Spike's accent got better (easy to forget how bad it was in Season 2) and I decided to presume that Drusillas delusion that she was English was all part of her madness).

Sigh, can't wait until the DCs are old enough for Buffy...

LRDtheFeministDragon · 05/11/2012 14:31

They really should have been fair and had some kind of competition between them. Perhaps an athletic format? I hear that it can get very warm under the lights when you're filming, so it would only have been fair to allow them to remove unnecessary clothing.

Then they could have released the audition takes and we could all have come to an informed judgement.

What a pity.

[insert raging internal debate about 'objectifying men! Sexism! - But wait, there is a Context To Misogyny - You Feminists are all hypocrites'. My apologies.]

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HumphreyCobbler · 05/11/2012 14:35
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Trills · 05/11/2012 14:35

Drusilla didn't have an English accent she had an "I am batshit insane" accent :o

OnTheBottomWithAWomansWeekly · 05/11/2012 14:38

True Blood. Everyone was waiting to find out why Sookie was so tasty, and she said herself "I'm a fairy? How fucking lame!" - and then they did shag all with the fairy storyline.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 05/11/2012 14:38

She did have a truly horrible accent. Though not as bad as the bloody woman on The Finder (the one that had a backdoor pilot in Bones). She is actually English but has one of those jarring mockney accents that make you want to kill someone.

I do love the checklist of Englishisms Spike goes through, though ... 'Sodding, blimey, shagging, knickers, bollocks. Oh, God. I'm English.'

This from a show with the name 'Thomas Wanker' prominent in the credits ...

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CaseyShraeger · 05/11/2012 14:40

The third series of Veronica Mars was, by all accounts (like you, I've deliberately not watched it) a desperate attempt to avoid cancellation by becoming more "populist" and doing anything the network suggested. And we can all see how well that worked out for them.

Combining two thread strands, Jason Dohring made a good vampire in Moonlight, in a TOTALLY non-objectifying way obviously.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 05/11/2012 14:44
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I've not seen Moonlight, but I can imagine.

Though he is Far Too Young. Of course.

I didn't like the third season of VM at all, but I seem to have managed to blank out that storyline. Sad

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BeatTheClock · 05/11/2012 14:52

Remaking Reginald Perrin. I'm still fuming about that. Whoever remade it totally didn't get it obviously.

Reggie was brilliant. The remake turned him into a bumbling fool by that bloke who does those irritating dog insurance ads.

MardyArsedMidlander · 05/11/2012 18:01

Juliet Landau, who played Drusilla, said in an interview that an English bloke had come up to her and said 'WHERE are you from?'. She took it as a compliment Hmm

Bad Decisions- Not bringing back the lovely awful Jamie in The Thick of It.

CaseyShraeger · 05/11/2012 18:06

She clearly didn't realise that the unspoken subtext was "...because it SOUNDS like you're from somewhere on the fringes of the Orion nebula, but that can't be right..."