Black Mirror anyone?

[Flossie69]

This is good, in a surreal kind of way....

[RyokoTheRedNosedLamedear]

I was disappointed, it was a one trick pony, once you knew the story there was very little going on, it was 40 mins too long, more like a story for part of sketch show then a whole show it self.

[BroomBuBuBum]

I think he would have to do it too, if it came to that. If it happened in real life I certainly would expect him too, but I don't think I'd watch!

[EightiesChick]

I don't think IRL he would have to do it, but it was interesting to see how the pressure apparently exerted by social media etc might make it seem that there was no other choice. I would not expect him to do it, and in fact I would support the refusal to negotiate, even from This Lot, who I don't like. But it was a plausible (within the 'suspension of disbelief' that you expect from any ideas-based, 'what-if..' TV drama) way of exploring where a media-based moral framework might take you.

[ButWhyIsTheGinGone]

I stand by my assertion that he would never do it. What right does anyone have to enforce someone to do such an appalling thing?
He should have refused right from the very start to entertain such a foul idea. If the princess had died there would be NO blood on his hands. None.

[ButWhyIsTheGinGone]

I am amzed, properly amazed at people saying they would expect him to do it. BroomBuBuBum - you would be willing to be fucked by a pig in order to save the life of someone you did not know and had never met??? Extraordinary...

[IloveJudgeJudy]

I watched this with DD (15) who was revolted. We discussed whether we would have watched the PM with the animal. We both agreed that we wouldn't. I thought the programme could have been made much better and I thought the sex and animal bit could have been made into a different action that would still have pulled people to watch it or was the point that it was because it was a sex act that the streets were empty?

Anyway, feel a bit dirty that I watched the whole programme and thought it ended rather quickly.

[unacceptablebehaviour]

ButWhyIsTheGinGone I didn't interpret it that he did it to save her - he did it to save himself.

[MrsChemist]

I think the whole point was that, while this particular scenario is far-fetched, it's plausible that during a crisis, social media may play an important role in how events play out, and that that won't always be a positive thing.

[EightiesChick]

See, I don't feel dirty because I know what I would have done in his position and I know what I would have expected of him - what ButWhy .. said, to refuse outright. I'm happy on my moral high ground But it's an interesting one to discuss.

ILoveJudgeJudy I think it had to be something at the more disturbing end of porn, but not anything involving kids as it woul never have got made (rightly so) so I think the scenario was pitched about right. A bleak (but probably not that inaccurate) notion that many people would tune in. How many millions are watching insects being eaten by 'celebs' on IACGMOOH?

[ButWhyIsTheGinGone]

unacceptable really? I don;t see it that way - there are soooo many worse things than "trending badly on Twitter" or "losing points with the people." These spell the end for a polititician, yes, but having sex with an animal would spell the end of a normal life for ever. You would lose everything. I would be surpirsed if someone could continue living a normal life after fucking an animal.

[StuckForWords]

Ilovejudgejudy

"I watched this with DD (15) who was revolted. We discussed whether we would have watched the PM with the animal. We both agreed that we wouldn't."

Did you switch off when they were implying that they might actually show it? Nope!

Brilliant tele.

[zookeeper]

it was an utterly implausible pile of shite

[OldLadyKnowsSantaClaus]

I thoroughly enjoyed it, and was amused that my 21 yo and his gf were tweeting about it when it was on!

[ButWhyIsTheGinGone]

Zookeeper has summed it up far more succinctly than I could have. I'm off to bed, hopefully not to dream of people fucking animals. :-(
I just genuinely think (yup cannot go without having a final say!) that anyone who think the PM should have "done it" should look at themselves and ask whether they themselves would have done it. Knowing their kids would see, it would ruin their marriage and it would do god knows what to their mental health. I defy ANYone to say they would.
Night all!

[LEttletownofBOFlehem]

It would have to be a much better-looking pig.

[Moln]

have to say that i was convinced that it wasn't going to happen.

Then when it was decided that it had to it all became a bit unrealistic. Then they showed everyone, to the extent the streets were empty, watching making it more unrealistic, then apparently people where still watching after 'nearly an hour' (and the pig wasn't making a noise)

the only thing i thought was belivable after the point of the deciion was that the faces of many of those that were watching quickly turned from amusment/interest to repulsion/shock

[ChippingInNeedsSleep]

MissMiss It wasn't as thought-provoking as some people think it was trying to be

Are you a teacher?


BOF


If I was male I could fuck something to save someone's life (from my own humiliation pov) - my dilemma would be with 'raping' the pig - that I would really really struggle with. I would have to be sure it wouldn't physicallyhurt the animal - if it would, I don't think I could go through with it for a stranger, for my own family - I don't know, but probably.

(I say if I was male because putting a penis into something seems much less intrusive than having something forced into your vagina.)

All the acting was pretty crap.

[Disputandum]

I also hated it and felt distinctly grubby afterwards, but saw the indecent act as a metaphor for how our politicians are increasingly at the mercy of the Twitterati. It all seems to be about mob rule and poll ratings nowadays.

[MarshaBrady]

It did make me feel grubby, he looked awful and I felt a bit sick when they said an hour. erk

But the streets wouldn't be empty, they would have checked whose finger it was and the party wouldn't make him do it.

But it was quite dark and fast-paced.

[Snorbs]

I think it said less about how a Government would actually deal with a situation like this than it did about the way that the public at large would react.

It was realistic in the sense that the speed of social media does make it very easy for people to get carried away with the excitement of a situation. Things can snowball so quickly it can be almost scary. But it is often at the expense of losing sight of the fact that real people's lives are involved and that situations are rarely that black and white.

I thought the way the public's reaction went from "OMG, that poor princess" to "Ha ha, the PM's going to fuck a pig! That will be hysterical!" to "there's a person on our TV screens being utterly degraded and I'm deliberately watching it happen" was the real message.

[ChickensThinkYouCanGetStuffed]

He didn't do it to save himself, he did it because his family were threatened by his own government. The woman minister he nearly throttled basically threatened his children. He was a puppet, and his government changed tack along with popular opinion. I felt immense sympathy for the PM character.

[ElderberrySyrup]

Factory-farmed pigs endure worse, I am sure.

DH thought the unrealistic thing about this was the queen basically encouraging him to go ahead - with her famous sense of duty and respect for position she would probably tell him not to do it even if that did mean a member of her family dying. After all it's not just the personal cost to him, it brings the office of Prime Minister into disrepute.

[MarshaBrady]

I did too Chickens. I really, really felt for him.

He didn't do it for his own career. I though the wife should at least be grateful he did it to save their children, even if she could never sleep with him again.

It was so awful that he didn't even have to do it (ignoring the fact someone would have seen the princess from a window).

[nethunsreject]

I loved it - but felt quite ill!

Good TV, imo.

[nethunsreject]

yy, felt really upset for the PM. I thought it was really disturbing.