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The Walking Dead Season 2

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TorianaTollywobbles · 20/10/2011 19:54

Starts tomorrow night at 10pm in case you didn't already know!

And the last episode of Season 1 is on before in case you need to remember what happened

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Blondeshavemorefun · 05/12/2011 12:47

Rick to the rescue eh

So will they move on fron the farm or stay?

limitedperiodonly · 05/12/2011 13:03

I'm watching it out of habit now because it's ridiculous and isn't at all scary.

The thing that annoys me most is them humouring Herschel's plan for them to leave.

In reality you'd reason with the silly git that there was safety in numbers and insist he explained his crackpot decision. It's inexplicable unless you know he's trying to protect the walkers in the barn.

In the end, you'd stay by force. They do have guns.

That's just first in a long list of gripes like why the farm is immune from walkers, why they keep going to Boots, how come everyone can ride, why anybody rides when there are cars and petrol about that you can lock and won't throw you off, why Norman Reedus uses a crossbow when it would be better to use a gun, where he gets a plentiful supply of bolts from, who's the most annoying between Lori and Carl?

ZeldaUpNorth · 05/12/2011 13:36

He uses a bow and arrow as its quieter than a gun so wont attract more walkers.

AWimbaAllTheWay · 05/12/2011 13:44

Am I the only one that still thinks it's great and isn't irritated by it or any of the characters at all? . Can't wait til feb, I've put it in my calendar Blush.

limitedperiodonly · 05/12/2011 13:45

Okay. I concede that one. But the rest of it still stands Grin

ILovePonyo · 05/12/2011 13:54

I watched it last night, thought Shane was very well acted and had a tear in my eye when little sophia came shuffling out of the barn Sad
Am on my phone so can't remember who asked, but rick said 'thank you' to Shane about the pregnancy, I know this as I rewinded it and put on the subtitles to check Grin
I laughed when Glenn announced that there are walkers in the barn, love Glenn at the moment.
Dp thinks rick shot Sophia as it now reinstates him as leader of the group, otherwise he would only have been stood about holding a walker on a lead Hmm
Great series tho. Can't wait for feb...

susiedaisy · 05/12/2011 14:02

Yeah I agree with you, Rick manning up and shooting Sophia does show who's boss, especially after being talked into the ridiculous situation of taking walkers home on a lead!!! Pathetic idea!! IMO in the long term as a person you would either have to detach yourself from the idea that walkers are still humans and shot them before they got you, or you wouldnt last very long, also it is asking alot of your comrades to expect them to shot the walkers for you all the time because your too much of a wuss to take the responsibility yourself!!

< steps off of soapbox and goes to unload dishwasher> GrinGrin

ILovePonyo · 05/12/2011 14:30

Agree susie, life becomes more simplistic in a zombiefied world! I was talking to Dp and said what is the point of carrying on, especially say Glenn and maggie - they cant have a 'normal' relationship eg marriage and babies, so what's the point? Suppose your survival instinct kicks in and that's it...
That might not make sense hope you know. What I mean Blush

wintera · 05/12/2011 14:39

I actually think they (the main group) came across as a cheeky bunch of feckers in that last ep. It doesn?t matter if Herschel was deluded in what he thought; it?s his land, his barn, his family and friends so he can do what the hell he likes in my opinion. Who are they to just wade in and deal with the situation anyway? If they felt so strongly about it, they should have just left the daft old sod and his farm and fecked off someplace else.

Remember at the end of last season when Amy died? Andrea wouldn?t let anyone else deal with her sister, because she was her flesh and blood and she wanted to be the one to end it for her sister. The others respected that and left her to it. What a pity Andrea and the others couldn?t show Herschel the same kind of pity.

Oh they were fine and dandy shooting everyone else in the head, because they didn?t know them, even though it would have been distressing for the others who live on the farm, but when it was one of their own who came out then they all turned into a bunch of shitbags and wussed out. Hate Andrea and Shane even more after the last ep, and love Rick and Daryl more than ever now! And I also cried when Rick shot Sophia, it was heartbreaking!

anonacfr · 05/12/2011 14:56

I'm so with you wintera. Shane just showed how out of control and dangerous he was. I mean they didn't have extra ammo! They didn't know how many walkers were in the barn!
Shane's plan was deluded and dangerous.

Rick didn't step up to reassert his position he did because he had no choice. Shane might have talked the talk (that kid is already dead you guys are wimps etc.) when it came go shooting a child in the head in front of her mother, he didn't have the guts. None of them did aside from Rick.

Now thanks to Shane a mother will be haunted with the vision of her daughter's dying in front of her and a little boy will have seen his father shoot his friend in the head.
Not so easy when it's someone you know...

susiedaisy · 05/12/2011 15:14

But in my mind it's not herschels land now, if the whole worlds gone to shit it's survival of the fittest and if I was rick and had a pregnant wife etc etc I would just insist on staying and tough too Herschel, but as Herschel said there are other farms to take and he is right about that, but I think unfortunately within weeks there would be bands of people roaming the country taking what they can unless there was some sort of regime or active government in place, god you only had to be in the uk a few years ago when the fuel strikes just started to nip at the edge of society and it was a free for all in our local tescos people getting into confrontations over baby milk nappies and basic food like bread and milk sad how quickly things escalatesSad

limitedperiodonly · 05/12/2011 15:25

Yes susie. It's not about zombies but I believe The Stand to be more accurate about the breakdown of society and people being drawn to a hard man even if he's horrible because it represents order.

Look how they trusted mad, over-acting Christopher Ecclestone in 28 Days Later. That would never have happened if not for a zombie apocalypse Grin

anonacfr · 05/12/2011 15:32

I agree the rules have changed but they at least owed Herschel the courtesy of forewarning. They've been happy to use his shower, eat his food, drive his cars- they could have talked to him as a group.
They also should have discussed it between themselves and taken a vote.

Survival of the fittest is all wellp and good but it's not about wasting resources and antagonising useful people. It's about gathering together, building on a group and adding people with skills. Otis, for example was a medic. He was far more useful to the survival of the group than Carl. Shane obviously didn't think about that. Herschel had proven that he could be an efficient surgeon. Good luck getting his help now! Again Shane didn't think about that.

At the moment Shane is actually the worst danger to the group's safety.

ILovePonyo · 05/12/2011 15:45

anon that is true about survival of the fittest, but Shane (like everyone else) is human and he loves Rick. He would always choose Rick over anyone else, no matter how useful they are to the groups survival (I think anyway). Thats why survival of the fittest is flawed - agree with you about Herschel and that they can't rely on him for medical help now should they need it.

anonacfr · 05/12/2011 15:53

Actually I think Shane is inherently selfish. If he knew he could get Lori and Carl he would kill Rick without a second's thought. He nearly did last year and now that he thinks Lori's expecting his child you know he would.

susiedaisy · 05/12/2011 15:57

I think to salvage any chance of staying in Herschels good books rick would have to remove Shane from the group, I agree shane is a loose cannon, in time I think men and women would have to become equal in as much as using guns and being savvy at surviving otherwise it leaves women no choice but to latch on to any strong man that they can find which I think would leave women open to being used and abused!

wintera · 05/12/2011 15:58

Fair point about the rules about ownership becoming blurred in that kind of situation, it's every man for themselves and all that. But they had been respectful that it is his land for a few episodes so for them to suddenly change their minds about that, and do what they did, I just found it kind of disrespectful. It's not that I agreed with Herschel's actions, of course I don't, I just don't think it was their decision to make. I hate the hypocrisy in their actions, that their people are more important than others and their loved ones.

On another note, can't help but think that the teaching of Carl to shoot may come back to bite Shane in the arse at some point maybe? And even though I hate Shane like I do I don't want him to go or die yet. He's a good villain so am enjoying hating him so much if that makes sense. Andrea can well and truly Feck off now though. She does this shrug smirk thing that irritates the hell out of me!

susiedaisy · 05/12/2011 16:08

wintera you are right, I think Andrea does have a sort of smirk going on, she's a bit like Catherine zeta jones they have a mouth that looks like their smirking but it's just the way their mouth is.

anonacfr · 05/12/2011 16:11

Forgot to add- He's obviously thinking about 'claiming' Lori. He was already telling her that he'd saved her life more often than Rick had.

susiedaisy · 05/12/2011 16:13

What I did think was sort of sweet was Glenn asking for maggies permission to shoot the walkers coming out of the barn.

anonacfr · 05/12/2011 16:15

Ever s

roundcornsilkvirgin · 05/12/2011 16:17

I'm trying to remember how Shane dies in the comic book...is it Carl related I wonder? Must check.

susiedaisy · 05/12/2011 16:19

Yeah I do agree that Shane is def in the series as the badass that we love to hate/disapprove of, but sadly in RL I think an end of world as we know situation would bring the shane types out in droves!

roundcornsilkvirgin · 05/12/2011 16:30

have checked

wintera · 05/12/2011 16:32

Personally I find the Shane Rick relationship strange and fascinating. Shane seems to hate Rick in some ways. Or maybe it's a jealousy thing because Rick is just so noble and good and Shane will never be what Rick is maybe? Not sure but it's an odd relationship. Notice that the other week Shane said the most important people in the world to him were Lori and Carl, not Rick included although he's supposed to be his best mate. I also like the fact that the audience has one up on Shane at the mo, as we know that Rick knows what went on while he was out. Hope they explore that some more. Hate the way Shane keeps saying Rick can't make the tough decisions and even implied that Rick wasn't cut out for their new way of life, that is balls. Shane doesn't care about the others in the group so the decisions involving the group are not hard for him. Rick actually cares too much so that's why the decisions are actually harder for him. Plus Rick has gone through hell and back and dragged himself through all kinds of Shit in the process just to find his family, he's well tougher than Shane who is essentially a selfish bastard.