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EasterEnders Baby Swap Story Comes to its Conclusion this Friday

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GenevieveHawkings · 13/04/2011 11:17

So after all the furore I see that the show's priducers stuck to their guns and let it run until Easter, as they originally planned to.

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1375985/Kats-cradle-EastEnders-couple-Moon-reunited-son-thought-dead.html

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IsElmoMaleorFemale · 15/04/2011 21:13

Surely they'll just dna test Tommy(the real one) and find it a match to Kat?

I also didnt boo hoo like most of the comments on fb, however i am left feeling really sorry for both Kat and Jack. (maybe because i've read a few spoilers about Kat and feel sad for Jack as he will now see what he what he thought was HIS son be given to and cared for by someone else)

I understand its not real, but I'm a sap.

deemented · 15/04/2011 21:19

All that will do is prove that Tommy is indeed Kats. It won't prove that the baby thats been buried is Ronnies.

IsElmoMaleorFemale · 15/04/2011 21:23

oh i guess so. Didnt think of that..

travellingwilbury · 15/04/2011 21:31

A load of old shite , Fact !

Warm and tender my arse !

Shoesytwoesy · 15/04/2011 22:39

it all felt rather a let down, I just ended up feeling sorry for Jack, which felt wrong as Ronnie should be the person I am feeling sorry for......stupid messed up story line, I do hope somehow they at least let Kat and Alfie be happy

slartybartfast · 15/04/2011 23:10

i would have thought the baby would have been taken by social services

for yonks, until proved or otherwise.

slartybartfast · 15/04/2011 23:10

i havent watched it for aages either btw, thought it was lucky for ronnie she was holding the baby otherwise kat would have decked her.

Shoesytwoesy · 15/04/2011 23:25

slartybartfast tbh I was thinking that too

GenevieveHawkings · 16/04/2011 00:22

confuddledDOTcom I'm quite well aware that in real life babies do die especially more than once in 20 years. I was simply making the point that if soaps go back to an issue they've covered in the past they will try and put a new spin on it - which is quite true.

As much as some might like to argue that soaps are some people's source of reality everyone knows that they are no reflection whatsoever of real life - if they were you'd never ever hear a swear word, you'd always be able to find employment 100 yeards from your front door and we'd all live in a houses like a tardis that accommodated as many friends/family members as we cared to invite in to live.

Of course no one who found themselves in such tragic circumstances would swap a baby in real life, it's just not typical behaviour, or behaviour that anyone has seen replicated anywhere in real life but this is a silly soap.

A silly soap that, granted, millions of people watch but I'd be surprised if more than a totally deluded handful of people believe to have any bearing on reality.

The one thing that was blown out of all proportion here I feel was the extent to which this storyline was capable of convincing viewers that Ronnie's behaviour was a true reflection and accurate portrayal of how a typical bereaved mother would react.

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GenevieveHawkings · 16/04/2011 00:30

As far as tonight's episode went, I thought it was crap.

As far as I can see, Ronnie didn't explain to Jack why she gave the baby to Kat. She simply told him that he wasnt the baby's father - not that she wasn't his mother. He didn't seem to ask any questions either!

As for the Police turning up and her getting in the sqaud car, they didn't bother to make any comment or make any enquiries!

All very non reality soapland I thought.

IMHO, Jessie Wallace is ten times the actress that Samantha Womack is. She'll be no loss to the programme whatsoever. All we can hope for now is that the one who plays her sister is hot on her heels.

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DuelingFanjo · 16/04/2011 00:31

it was surely just a portrayal of how that mother reacted given that particular set of circumstances?

Anyway, the courts will be lenient because somewhere down the line Cat will recognise the other characters grief.

I don't watch eastenders but caught the end of it.

confuddledDOTcom · 16/04/2011 06:55

I don't give two hoots if you believe it happens or not. John, Bryan et al actually believe it does and have done a good job of convincing many people it does. Are you "well aware" of what it's like to be a bereaved mother who's not allowed near her own nieces and nephews or her friends children in case wkt harm or snatch them? Before at least people were doing it from irrational fear now we have it proven! FSIDS, a psychologists, a senior midwife trainer and mothers themselves all say it's real.

Don't bother to patronise me or anyone else who's angry about this unless you've been there.

I actually missed last nights episode, was too busy being in labour at 27 weeks.

confuddledDOTcom · 16/04/2011 06:57

Oh I forgot to say they didn't say it happens, they supported them on the SIDS story and they're giving SIDS answers for swap answers.

Newgolddream · 16/04/2011 10:29

confuddled - is everything ok, has your labour stopped?

confuddledDOTcom · 16/04/2011 11:16

Yes it's all slowed down now and no fibronectin (the labour hormone they test for if you're early) but they've kept hold of me because of my history
to get the steroids in.

GenevieveHawkings · 16/04/2011 11:21

confuddledDOTcom If anyone was patronising anyone it was you patronising me!!

I have said nothing rude to you and wish you no ill will.

I wish you luck with your new baby.

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confuddledDOTcom · 16/04/2011 22:32

You felt patronised by a bereaved mother telling you she isn't interested in your opinion, her experience of being a bereaved mother, her conversation with the EastEnders producers and all whilst she's taking time out from being in labour at 27 weeks especially considering it's her tendency to preterm labour that made her a bereaved mother.

You congratulate me and call me rude?

confuddledDOTcom · 16/04/2011 22:32

You felt patronised by a bereaved mother telling you she isn't interested in your opinion, her experience of being a bereaved mother, her conversation with the EastEnders producers and all whilst she's taking time out from being in labour at 27 weeks especially considering it's her tendency to preterm labour that made her a bereaved mother.

You congratulate me and call me rude?

Shoesytwoesy · 16/04/2011 22:36

DuelingFanjo sorry but that would be stretching it, would you ever feel anything but hate for someone who had put you through 4 months of hell?
imo if they make Kat sympathetic to Ronnie then that is just plain daft

confuddledDOTcom · 16/04/2011 22:42

Maybe but they have no intention of dragging it out so it's likely to be conviently forgotten as soon as possible.

Shoesytwoesy · 16/04/2011 22:56

taht would be daft though as no mother is going to forget someone stealing 4 months of her baby

confuddledDOTcom · 16/04/2011 23:02

I was talking about Birth Trauma and how it affected me after the birth of my eldest LC and I said "do you realise you're setting Kat up for PTSD?" And I got shrugged at and told "stories have to move on."

Shoesytwoesy · 16/04/2011 23:05

I get you
I know so many people who have never got over the trauma of terrible stuff happening at the birth, that imo there is no way she woud just get ober it and forgive(16 yrs later in rl dh still wants to hit the doc who nearly let dd die)

DuelingFanjo · 16/04/2011 23:13

some people do have an amazing capacity for forgiveness, specially if they can empathise with the reasons for another person's behaviour.

I can imagine someone like Cat's character feeling extremely angry initially but then learning to understand what it was in the other woman's life experience which led her to the mental breakdown she suffered when she swapped the babies.

confuddledDOTcom · 16/04/2011 23:33

Oddly for me it was my next birth. I literally woke up from the GA feeling like it had all gone. I still find it hard at times like if I have to go into detail about it. It wasn't a bad birth, it was 10 months after I lost my baby. I went into labour at 31 weeks which they tried to stop but an hour later I was delivering her feet first and had to be crashed. It took 20 minutes to get meunder and have her on her way to the unit. I couldn't make sense of the events and the gap in time when I was under. I also believed in my pregnancy she was going to die too and it was the only thing that made sense. She was dead.

I can believe empathetic Kat is the way they'll take it from what we were told.