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EasterEnders Baby Swap Story Comes to its Conclusion this Friday

84 replies

GenevieveHawkings · 13/04/2011 11:17

So after all the furore I see that the show's priducers stuck to their guns and let it run until Easter, as they originally planned to.

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1375985/Kats-cradle-EastEnders-couple-Moon-reunited-son-thought-dead.html

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travellingwilbury · 14/04/2011 20:49

My favourite line from Brian was some bollocks about a heartwarming conclusion Confused

shabbapinkfrog · 14/04/2011 21:05

I remember that TW - he is so full of shite poo.

travellingwilbury · 14/04/2011 21:21

Well hello Shabs fancy seeing you here Grin

shabbapinkfrog · 14/04/2011 21:24

Stop me from coming back on an EE thread - plllllllllease......mind you this is quite civilised....although there is still time for the strange posters that we had on the early threads LOL. xx

travellingwilbury · 14/04/2011 21:27

Ignore the strange posters (that is my plan anyway)

shabbapinkfrog · 14/04/2011 21:31

I have a plan that if they come back - and, lets face it we all took a lot of 'stick' from them - I am just going to swear IN GREEK over and over again. As long as they are not Greek strange posters we will be fine - and if they are Greek I dont give a flying you know what Grin

chocolatecoveredlissielou · 14/04/2011 21:38

but i know no greek, can i just repeat sgfdhsjdjslsla over and over? tomorrow will be great Hmm

shabbapinkfrog · 14/04/2011 21:39

Stick with me love - I know some excellent Greek holiday swear words Grin

Although sjjdjdeeslllll sleinsldein - will do just fine!!

confuddledDOTcom · 14/04/2011 21:43

John said the ending is going to be so big it overshadows the start... What by Max and Abbey having a big crash? Sorry but they can't repair this! Nothing they do will make people say "ah so it's not something that happens then?!" And that's what we object to! Even if Ronnie turns out to have some serious mental illness she was OK at Christmas so anyone could seem OK and just flip, they've not protected the mother who hasn't yet lost her baby.

I agree with the previous comment that it's insulting that Kat get's her baby back which is what we're all desperate for. Mum tells me on a regular basis I can only have my angel or my eldest LC and not both because I still wish her back 5.5 years later. My girls were born in the same school year which makes it all the harder now.

shabbapinkfrog · 14/04/2011 21:47

Oh sweetheart - I know exactly what you mean. I watch my DS1 and DS3's friends walking around our local town with their own children and it makes me smile and makes me cry all at the same time. My best friend, who gladly has never lost a child, and myself are going to watch tomorrow night together because we are both longing for Tommy to be back with Kat......and I was the person who said earlier 'I KNOW ITS NOT REAL!!' xx

GenevieveHawkings · 15/04/2011 10:21

chocolatecoveredlissielou when you said "ive been saying to dh, if theyd have stuck with kat and alfie- SIDS and ronnie and jack- PND it would have worked really well", I think you got it the wrong way around.

It was Ronnie whose baby died and Kat and Alfie's that didn't so perhaps what you mean to say was they should have stuck with Ronnie and Jack experiencing the aftermath of SIDS and Kat and Alfie dealing with PND (that's if they decided they wanted to "give" the character PND).

They'd already covered SIDS in EastEnders years ago back in the 1980s soon after it started with Sue and Ali and baby Hasan. Soaps generally don't like covering the same issues again in exactly the same way. If they do cover them again they like to add a bit of a twist to maximise ratings and to keep what they consider to be "fresh, origina and cutting edge". So I guess this SIDS/babyswap thing fitted their criteria. I suppose the producers felt it also intertwined with Ronnie's character story as she didn't want to lose another child, having already lost her daughter, Danielle.

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chocolatecoveredlissielou · 15/04/2011 11:04

what i meant was, if Kat and alfies baby had really died, but ronnie developed PND it would have worked really well.

Glitterknickaz · 15/04/2011 12:33

I've started watching it again this past week, I'm intrigued at how they're going to conclude it tbh. Haven't watched since New Years Eve.

confuddledDOTcom · 15/04/2011 12:52

At the moment we haven't got Kat suffering from PND but Ronnie appears to be to those around her. What was said makes perfect sense and has been said by many people, we ever told them at the meeting it would have been amazing the way it's been done if the swap element was removed.

In real life babies do die especially more than once in 20 years. What doesn't happen is people swapping their baby like food that's gone off before it's sell by date!

chocolatecoveredlissielou · 15/04/2011 13:14

confuddled, yep! Jacks reaction to ronnies behaviour was excellant and ronnies emptiness etc would have been great. esp with the element of kat and alfie losing their baby, and ronnie feeling that she doesnt have the right to be a mother.

such a waste. they could have really helped people and resonated with their viewers, instead they alienated millions.

AlanTitWank · 15/04/2011 14:48

On This Morning today the frozen-but-oddly-bumpy-foreheaded soap critic was commenting on the storyline and a poll they had done saying the results for and against were close and that she thought it had been handled well. Ruth on the other hand was clearly in the anti camp. Soap Girl is newly married. It will be interesting to ask her opinion on it in a couple of years when she has her PFB.

confuddledDOTcom · 15/04/2011 17:30

Bit of silly trivia for you, I'm sure MrsD will laugh at me for knowing this because she did before.

This weeks episodes were being filmed when the episodes that were being filmed whilst we were there went out. Bit of a strange coincidence! I know this because I found a copy of The Walford Gazette and checked the date and also we were asked for help in the ending (Sad I couldn't get my confidentiality agreement back in time so I'm waiting for tonight's episode too!)

chocolatecoveredlissielou · 15/04/2011 19:53

and, if anyone else wants to say "its only a soap - they arent supposed to be realistic" read this scroll down to dec 22nd

PotPourri · 15/04/2011 20:52

Well, I kept my word and did not watch eastenders since the storyline broke early December. So much so that I did not even know that it was going to be revealed tonight. Then this evening, I turned on the TV about 8.25 and there was Ronnie telling Kat that she knows what it is like to have her heart shrivel. I couldn't switch it off, and it was a huge shock that she gave the baby back. I was really vocal on the previous threads about this. But I am actually glad that I saw those 5-10 minutes just now. When I looked at Kat's face at the very end, I could only imagine what that must have felt like. It has left me reeling tbh, but I did feel her joy.

Reading this thread, it sounds like they have made Roni into a baddie - shame on eastenders. The whole thing was a terrible mess from the first day of this storyline. From that short time I saw, all I could see was the pain and the relief that she could finally grieve for her baby. And that made me feel so sad for that poor character.

Yes, it's not real. But what's the point of watching if you are not going to look at it as if it could be real. It's not Mamma Mia or the like.

Not sure if I will watch it again, probably won't see the aftermath played out anyway.

Hope all the bereaved mums are ok with this conclusion - it must be so hard to see that dream come true moment. Much love to you all.

PeachyAndTheArghoNauts · 15/04/2011 20:54

i DON'T KNOW THAT rONNIE WAS SHOWN AS A BADDIE- HAD THE SWAP NOT BEEN IN IT'D EITHER BE A STUNNING POTRAYAL OF GRIEF OR pn DEPENDANT ON HOW IT HAD SHAPED UP.

PeachyAndTheArghoNauts · 15/04/2011 20:54

Oh bugger, errant toddler, sorry!

Flisspaps · 15/04/2011 20:57

Pot Pourri, I thought I was the only one who wasn't watching EE still!

deemented · 15/04/2011 20:59

Well, i thought it was utter utter shite.

I'm still waiting for the 'warm and tender' bit.

Wonder if that'll come when they exhume the other babys body so they can prove it is indeed Ronnies baby?

chocolatecoveredlissielou · 15/04/2011 21:04

deemented Fri 15-Apr-11 20:59:40
Well, i thought it was utter utter shite.

I'm still waiting for the 'warm and tender' bit.

Wonder if that'll come when they exhume the other babys body so they can prove it is indeed Ronnies baby?

yep, yep, yep, yep

chocolatecoveredlissielou · 15/04/2011 21:09

well, the ds forums are offline due to high demand.

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