The Incident Room (aka The Killing - Thread 2)

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Bring your notebooks, your whiteboards, your clipboards, your pens, your tape measures and your waterways maps to solve the problem of what happened to Nanna Birk Larsen.

I think it could be about how one incident - her murder - touches and changes all involved. What has been noticeable (and remarked on before) is how everyones life is unravelling (but not the bloody jumper!!) So the political stuff may be just that, but it shows the sleath at the heart of government - adultery, fraud, lying, cheating and her only real connection to it was her affair with Holck.

Odd that Olav thought he was doing something for Bremer if it was only about an affair, although Holck was strategically important for both sides and is being used even in death. We've still got 4 more hours to see if more corruption comes out.

teej - like your theory about Bremer knowing about affair and keeping it in his back pocket to use against Holck. If that was the case, would also make sense that Bremer stole the CCTV tape. BUt, I can't see why Bremer would give it to Lund as the case was officially closed.

Also, you all seem to think something dodgy happened on Latvia trip. I can imagine that the trip is significant, but I can't think what might have happened? So, what are you all thinking?

Also, when I said Rie might have been adopted, I meant when she was very young. And then, she found her sister Mette when older, only to lose her again when she disappeared. I just think the resemblance is too uncanny. And I wonder if Rie stole the tape from Bremer to give to Lund. What happened to Rie for the few days she went awol after Troels release?

Loving these theories as much as the series!

Yes Bremer stikes me as the type to keep things on everyone 'just in case'. The Holck thing would be exactly the kind of info he would hangon to. Remember he said to him (about three episodes back) that if he wanted to be a politician he (Holck) had to be on Bremer's side? Hint: I have something on you....

I also wonder if the 5,000K was blackmail payments... If Holck had stopped seeing Nanna 5-6 months before why were the payments still happening.

Also if Bremer knew about Holck's affair then Holck's possible alliance with Trols would have been reported back to Bremer... spying for Bremer who had the information over him....

My money is on Leon the taxi driver/removal man. Surely Vagn would have been too young 15 ys ago...

I'm sure that Rie isn't adopted... I think it's very unlikely we're going to have a Miss Marple-esque "the butler is your long lost brother" type reveal at the end!!

We still don't know who was sending emails from Morten's account to the journalist do we? Olav?

Wonder how many cars/bodies they're going to find in the canals.. I'm thinking 5 or 6...

Proles depends if Mette is the first victim... or somewhere in the middle...

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Other thing that occurs to me is that when they were looking at the video footage of the poster party didn't Holck leave early? About 8.30... Nanna came and asked for the key at about 10.30 from City Hall so that doesn't tie in - can someone check the timeline/evidence board please...

Gosh just four episodes left, am gutted. Even more gutted that my MIL is staying at ours for the finale weekend and I've never seen her yet watch a show without continous banal commentary. Also she hasn't been watching it so will be asking constant questions. Do you like the way that I automatically assume I will be watching it - guests or no guests.
I think with so few viewing hours left (sob) we have to focus in on the unfinished threads that need to be resolved for viewer satisfaction and that might give us some clues.
I think the biggest strands yet to have any resolution are:

1. What happened in Latvia?
2. What was the story with Vagn, Theis and the drug dealer?
3. Why is the relationship strained between Amir and Theis?
4. Why is political pressure being applied to the investigation?
5. Will Bremmer get his comeuppance?
6. Who is the mole/leak in Troel's campaign/highlight on Rie's motives?

Even though I've always felt that Vagn is a weaslly looking wrong'un, I have a feeling that the political aspects must be tied to the homicide right to the end, otherwise you cannot justify two such diffuse plotlines in one story.
puts down laser pointer and retreats from whiteboards

Just marking place, as still 5 episodes behind so cannot read the thread!!!

desperately trying to catch up!!!!

Good summary poppet may I add

7, Where did Nanna get the necklace from?

Also have just realised why flat was left in a mess. The baddie couldn't get back in to tidy it up as they didn't have keys... So wasn't from City Hall.

An interview by the Times with the writer of the show said that the ending is going to be BIBLICAL.

It doesn't sound good...could it be that one of the parents is involved??

Not convinced it's Vagn either as he does not have the cool, calm and meticulous approach that the killer seemed to possess.

But that would mean there is no politcal connection, which I find hard to believe after all the time spent in City Hall!

Or Knitter, because either he didn't care, as he knew he'd left no trace, or he meant to leave a mess to implicate the liberals?

Back on board after fruitlessly trailing Morten round the north of England....

I'm a bit worried that our beloved Killing is going to leave us with lots of dangling ends. I don't understand why for example Nanna didn't just go out with Amir as surely he parents wouldn't have minded she was 19 after all, why did they have to run away and with such a small amount of luggage?

I still think the murderer is Leon the taxi driver who is just a random psycho and some connected sleaze was going on in Latvia which links to Nanna but is not the reason she was killed. The remaining four episodes will shiw this being uncovered and the killer (Leon?) being trapped.

OK, I can't read all the thread, in case I see any spoilers, but I don't understand where Lund got the keys in episode 10 that opened the flat where she found it ransacked/blood etc????

Where did the keys come from? I clearly blinked and missed something! Were they found on Nanna?

If you answer, please put "keys" at the top of your message, so i can quickly scan rather than read all the posts....

Curses: should have listened harder in RE at school. Hmm. Which biblical themes cover rape/politics/murder....or is the cleansing in water thing a common thread about their deaths, like a baptism? (actually like the bloke in Ipswitch, who left bodies in streams to cleanse them)

So (warming to this now) it would be someone who knows of Nannas past relationships and thinks she is a whore - incidentally, I thought it was strange that Holck called her "that whore", when he was supposed to love her?

Also, if it's biblical, don't forget Faust, who sold his soul to the devil.

Keys, bird - yep, they were found with Nana's stuff

What about a racist angle? We saw Vagn being quite unpleasant at the very start to the foreign bloke in the shop, and he might have judged Nanna for running away with Amir? Also keen to set up Rama.

ooh I'm off now: if it's got a biblical theme, you can insert characters into roles: Bremmer - the devil, troels - as a charismatic leader, lets call him Jesus - but he will have to sacrifice himself to fit, Pernille and the sister - Mary and Martha (the prostitute, wasn't she)....um ..um... Rie and Morten are disciples, then, and Morten will be Judas?

I could go on........better not.

Biblical, could that be as in apocalyptic? Or sacrificing your child (Abraham) or... runs out of RE inspiration
Agree about the racist element re Amir, but also yes Proles why didn't he come forward earlier?