The Incident Room (aka The Killing - Thread 2)

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Bring your notebooks, your whiteboards, your clipboards, your pens, your tape measures and your waterways maps to solve the problem of what happened to Nanna Birk Larsen.

Oh Keys annoying me now because I can't remember where they found them.....ahhh....
Do you realise we have done 250 posts in three days!! We are going to need a new thread before the weekend at this rate.

Is anyone any good at doing a sumamry of all the possible variations on this?

Just checked episode 1 and the finding of the stuff is 10 mins in... there is quite a few things there.... we definitely see pants, belt and video card but there is more bags than that...

Can't quite work out how the stuff got there though. Isn't it supposed to be that she was running through the woods and ended up there? then why did her stuff end up there as she wasn't wearing it when she was running through the woods... Baddie must have dropped it there - but why when he's covered lots of his other traces so well? Maybe he did want her to be found and Bendt was wrong.... So that implies it was one of the politicals lineing up Troels to take the fall (don't think he actually did it himself)

I watched a little bit after too when Vagn has a huge go at the shop keeper and calls him a Paki... shows he does have a temper... I'd forgotten that... It was a different person to Restaurant man/Amir's dad though wasn't it?

Also wondering why Rie works for Troels if her dad is so friendly with Bremer

Perhaps she was 'rescued' from the flat - with her stuff - and then dumped in the field, where the hunt began, and she dropped the stuff to run. Perhaps the person then caught her and locked her up. Do we know if she was also raped during her imprisonment? As if not, that might point to two attackers.

Can't remember where the key came in. Was it in the car with her body?

Mustn't forget how the car fits in here: Troels says he left the keys in the flat, but does that mean that only the 'flat' rapist could have dumped the body. Could Nanna herself have taken the car herself to escape?

sorry knitter about forgetting that theory was yours
also - you know what i mean about the logo though? you scan through the people there, thinking - ok for it to be a big deal the killer must be staring us in the face. and then you go through them one by one, and cross each person off, and then you are left with the gaps. the people who fit the profile and the gaps in what we know or believe about them...

I think Rie may be a plant - she could be my third man, keen to implicate Mortenn, for leaking, she could alsohave set Olav up, not Holck. (though he did say "he" didn't he, to Bremmer) Rie, Mortenn and Vagn have had suspicious little character development.

knitter i'd forgotten that about vagn - couldn't quite remember why i'd had such a bad impression of him since the start, because everything else piled in on top.

but goes to show he would be fuming if he had an obsession with nanna only to realise she was running off with what he would call "a paki"

and sorry if someone else mentioned this....

on the video with holck she was wearning jeans

when she died she was wearing a slip.

did someone "dress" her in the slip when they held her hostage?

wearing

I wondered about the slip - I suppose she had been wearing a dress earlier, and might not have changed completely in the school basement. Could just have been a way to make her decent for the shot of her running?

could be, five, on both counts!

The rape and murder thing, it seems more the sort of crime in this case that happens to someone you don't know - if it was Vagn, he could have done this anytime: Although we know that him and Theiss were keen in the past of dishing out punishment, so maybe he felt Nanna deserved it?

five i think the trigger was her running off with "a paki", which offended his personal sense of right and wrong.

also - we have discussed before that cleaning the body etc might have been an act of love as much as an act of destroying evidence - especially if the killer never thought the body would be found!

also vagn seems to think he almost owns the family... becoming aggressive with theis and pernille and trying to tell charlotte what to do...

I also think Rie is in on it somehow. Something to do with her father? If we're going down the biblical route, is it too blunt for her to be Eve??

I think the colour red has so much significance in this series. It's like all the colour has been drained out so all you see is the red - removal company, trousers, scarf round the neck of the fox, red car that killed the boy, think Pernille has been driving a red car too. Now I've seen it I can't stop seeing it.

(Sorry if these suggestions have been done already - like loads of you I'm just excited there are other people watching this Reckon it's the best telly I've seen in years. Tried watching 'Waking the Dead' over the weekend but it's soooo dreary and obvious in comparison - 'The Killing' has killed TV crime for me forever!)

RIe is a very cold character indeed - not quite sure why she dumped Troels - for not telling her he was suicidal? Seems strange, if she was supposed to love him (am I being simplistic here?) .Maybe she only wants power by association, and once he was damaged goods he ceased to be interesting.

Could she be in as a temptress - she facilitates others to do wrong (computer passwords etc) but doesn't do it herself.

Hmm

Just thought of a motive for Morten to attack Nana at the flat (but not kill her ) - He could have arrived at the flat, found her there, with computers on, rummaging about for documents, and thought he had discovered the person who set him up ( the leaker), and given that rape is all about power, the rather impotent morten attacked her?

Then she calls home, gets vagn, who think this little tramp needs teaching a lesson, as it will destroy Theis and Pernille to find her shagging in dodgy rooms again: So he punishes her.

Even I'm not convinced by this one!

betty and the red screwdriver found beside nanna's body...

Lund used red tools on the garage floor, as well.

five i thought rie's issue was threefold

• he did it because he misses his wife - rubbing it in that Rie is second best to the love of his life
• that he didn't tell her about it so she wasn't in control (she seems to like to know everything)
• that he told morten not to tell rie about it (so morten would have more "power" than rie)

have to say - there is something going on with her.... just not sure what...

Hey, if Holck said he couldn't kill anyone, then we still don't know who ran Olav down. Could that have been Morten? Could he be the lurker/ and the mole in city hall? He might have had access to Holcks garage for the weekend, and the red screwdriver comes from the same bag Lund used.