Eastenders Baby Death Storyline

[deemented]

Once again, no one can live happily ever after

Ronnie's baby James, dies and she puts his body in Kat and Alfies son's crib, and steals their baby boy, Tommy.

Why oh why oh why do scriptwriters insist on portraying bereaved parents - mothers especially - as mad and deranged??? Maybe it's because they can't begin to imagine how awful the death of a child is, but really, whilst we are mad with grief, it is our own child that we want back, not someone else's stolen child. When are scriptwriters ever going to understand that?

Still, it'll be a riveting watch, no doubt.

I can see that they want to raise awareness of different life experiences, this is fine when they are well presented.

Some of the public think that everyone will react in the same way as portrayed.

I laugh about it now, but I had my ds1 in 2003 and he was postnatally diagnosed with downs syndrome. When the subject was used in EE with Honey and Billy, someone at a wedding we were attending actually asked me if I'd felt the same way as Honey had when Janet was born!!!!!!

MrsDeVere I could really feel the anger and upset coming off your post there
I am so sorry

orange xxx
Bacchus

InPraiseOfBacchus - I can't believe how callous your post is. I didn't lose my child - he died. I didn't leave him behind at Tesco or leave him on the bus. He died. He stopped breathing and he died. I know exactly where he is - buried in a grave with my husband. I didn't lose him at all.

You probably can't see, from you vantage point in your ivory tower, just how crass and insensitive the EastEnders storyline is, and how badly it has been depicted, acted and handled. It's bad taste in the extreme, and IMO an offence to all the parents who have lost a child in this way.

But you know what? I'll grow up and deal with it. Because that's what us bereaved parents do - we deal with it. We don't have much bloody choice. We can't just turn off the TV and pretend it didn't happen.

How i wish we could.

InPraiseofBacchus I'm very 'grown up' thank you. Losing my DS and the horror that ensued and I still live with forced me to.

Until you have walked in our shoes don't make flippant upsetting comments that upset bereaved parents.

IPOB, what a load a rubbish, when did dead babies become adult entertainmet!!!! Apart from being an offensive storyline to anyone who has lost a baby it is a crude, dark lazy storyline, that most people do not want to watch. We have not had on in our house, and will not be watching EE again.

Demented and all other parents who have lost a child, much love to you all.

I think it is awful to think people would want to bring in the new year with the storylines of dead babies, Ee has lost it.
I had a mc this time last year and it was confirmed on nye so didnt need some horrid storyline, i wanted something to take my mind off my hell.
I cant say i was overly chuffed at the storyline of baby Lily and the train coming.

How someone can read MrsDeVere's post and then write such tripe is astounding.

either Bacchus is pathologically insensitive, or he/she didn't read MrsDeVere's or Orange's or deemented's posts.

I've not read all the posts on here but need to add my bit and tbh I don't care who thinks I'm over reacting.

I've never in RL been affected by this story line in anyway, BUT it is completely horrifying me. I've watched EE now for over 20 and they have had some touch and go story lines but this story line is horrible so so sad and upsetting and that's to me who has not connection to this in RL. I'm not ashamed to admit I watch EE I like EE, I use it as a bit of an escape from RL and usually as a bit of time to sit and relax and unwind BUT this I can't take, I can't see how anyone would enjoy/ is enjoying this horrible horrible story line.

I have complained to the BBC. It's awful I can't watch EE whilst this story line continues.

Bacchus 'grow up and deal with it??????'

I have just been lurking on this thread but I feel I have to reply.

I have 'grown up and dealt with it' twice in my lifetime. I have followed, into church, a tiny white coffin with my DTSon in it and a coffin with my 7 year old DS3 in it....when I see the soaps delving into the bereaved parent plot it makes me shudder. The idea that when a Mum is bereaved of her child (no matter what age) will then go out and steal another child??????????

Mrs. DeVere speaks the absolute truth when she says 'we dont want someone elses child, we want our child back.'

....and, yes I watched EE last night. Just sat there with my mouth wide open and thinking what an absolute mess the scriptwriters made of it!

sungirltan what do you mean, formula fed, always are?

That doesn't sound right, I meant to say

The story line is awful and I'm not watching EE until it is over. Not that it's awful I can't watch EE

Inpraise 'they do insane things' Please tell us what 'they' do and how you know 'they' do them.

Surely your source of reference is not ahem - soaps is it? Is that how you know about all the insane things us hilariously bonkers (and lets not forget precious) bereaved parents get up to.

The most insane thing I do is put up with bollocks spouted by people who dont have a clue.

sungirltan, yes, can you back that statement up?

In praise of Bacchus - the only thing that is "unbelievably precious" around here is all our dear children.

Much love to all who have suffered the loss of a DC.

Take no notice of crazy posters, or crazy, rubbish TV scripts.

Inpraiseofbacchus... I am shocked at your flippant comments regarding the death of a child... I completely agree with dee's and others comments above ... My child isn't lost either he tragically died aged 2 of suspected cot death ... I sincerely hope u never have to walk a mile in my shoes or others whose children have died..

Fwiw I have not watched soaps for some time and specifically wouldn't touch eastenders with a bargepole they already have my complaint...

sungirl both at the statement and your need to shoehorn it into your post.

Of course they are NOT always FF. They are NOt always born to teenagers, they are NOT always preemie, their parents are NOT always smokers etc etc.

Bacchus - it is broadly accepted that what we as adults watch for entertainment should delight, amuse, educate, touch or warn. This storyline does none of these things - it simply upsets people. The idea of such a course of events is so far removed from reality it's absurd. It's an insult to bereaved mothers and they don't have to be 'precious' to see that.

Inpraiseofbacchus. thank fuck I am not a grown up then having to watch this shit and have the choice to turn off this said "entertainment" for other rather more enjoyable persuits which don't involve entertainment from sick story lines of dead babies being swapped in cribs.

Sungirl - if only it was that simple. BF your baby and your baby will be protected from SIDS! But the truth is research has been going on for years into the cause of SIDS and no single factor can be found as the cause - you know that!

As for other comments about bereaved parents being precious etc - I am speechless, I cannot believe anyone could be so insensitive.

I watched EE last night, it was incredibly sad yes, but as others have said it wasn't entertainment and I won't be following the story. BBC blunder!

statement was in quotation marks! quoted from the nurse, based on her experiences of dealing with sids at our local hospital. so yes i can back it up.

Ok so it wasn't from you but I don't believe her. I'm sorry I just don't.

though i accept on reading my post back that the ff part was out of context for this discussion (it was part of a wider discussion about sids between friends and not strictly relevant to the EE storyline). i apologise if i have offended.

sungirltan - what on earth has how a child is fed got to do with them dying? Please back up this statement you made.

I too have turned my back on EE as a result of this storyline and won't be going back. A disastrous move from the BBC.