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Have I done the right thing by kicking DD out? (long post)

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pastamental · 24/05/2009 19:52

...well, obviously not, or I wouldn't be on here agonising about it.

She's nearly 16, stubborn, sly, always pleading to be trusted and a blasé liar. And those are her good points. When she's not exhibiting these common teenage traits though, she can be a lovely girl, academically intelligent & pretty. She's grown up in a loving, stable home - she's loved, but at the moment...not liked.

So - she has taken up smoking, an absolute anathema to me & DW. At first she did it surreptitiously with her "friends" (save that for another post?).
We've found evidence on her at least 3 times, we've had the tears, the "I'll never do it again...believe me". She's a very convincing performer, but obviously not meant at all.
It's particularly serious as her (independent) school has a zero tolerance to smoking - she WILL be expelled without question should they find out, especially as I'm sure she has the stuff at school. But last night she took it one step too far.

After what I thought had been a pleasant day, after a family trip to the cinema, back home she announced that she was just going outside...at 22:30. Unusual, though I knew straight away why, but had to hear it from her "Well, there's no point in hiding it any more, is there?". She had made a decision that evening, and perhaps was thinking we would capitulate. I really don't know what goes through her mind at times.

I said that it was bad enough her smoking anyway, but it was definitely not on blatantly smoking in or anywhere near the house. "ok, I'll just go down the street then". So as she walks away, I warned her that if she carried this through she was crossing a line from which there would be serious consequences.
Basically if she did not or could not abide by the simple rules of the house, she had better find some place else which would allow it...So she carried on walking.

Driven by my impotent rage, I locked all the doors, and left her to it. She knocked an hour later asking for some shoes, as she had gone for a fag in her slippers. I refused, reminding her that she had made her bed, and now she must lie in it, uncomfortable as it might be. And then at some point, she went off into the night...

As with most rows with her, big or small, she refuses to accept or contemplate a compromise. It's her way or nothing, whereas as we go out of our way to accommodate some of her demands, if only to keep the peace. And she does not know when to keep her mouth shut, and turns discussion into pointless, prolonged & heated arguments - if only she would hold her tongue, it would save her so much trouble. Mind you, her mother is just as bad in this respect, so I just leave them to it now, as I can't stand it any more.

So, am I being pig-headed in doing this? Irresponsible? Vindictive? Childish?? Part of me would be glad to get shot of her, but at her age, we still have 'parental responsibility' and even if she stays away, the practical/legal ramifications loom all too large. Even if she does come back once her friends (or friends parents) kick her out, she will not show one iota of remorse ? the word 'sorry' has always stuck in her throat since she was little.

And no, I've no idea where she is. We have been in touch very briefly after sending her delicately worded texts - as I'm not going to beg her to come back.

The sad thing is, what was promising to be a sunny, carefree bank holiday weekend is now anything but...

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ruddynorah · 24/05/2009 22:56

no. the OP wanted to know if we thought he was pig headed and childish.

we have answered yes he was, and is.

Quattrocento · 24/05/2009 22:56

It never happened FGS. Who in their right mind would lock out a 15 year old all night?

BigBellasBeerBelly · 24/05/2009 22:57

quattro sadly it has happened to other people on the thread when they were young.

Whether the OP is true or not doesn't change that

Yurtgirl · 24/05/2009 22:58

FWIW I reported this earlier - MN are 'looking into it'

Step away from the thread

PaulaYatesBiggestFan · 24/05/2009 22:59

agree quattro

otherwise ss would be on her doorstep

mumeeee · 24/05/2009 23:00

You are being childish. She has not done anything awful just acting like a typical teenager.

themildmanneredjanitor · 24/05/2009 23:01

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psychomum5 · 24/05/2009 23:02

you know, I truly hope you are a troll, otherwise I am really horrified by this.

I went to hell and back last night with MY 15yr old DD, who lied to me and went out drinking with her best friends, and then somehow they lost her, and then DD was found pretty much unconscious by a member of the public, who managed to get DHs mobile out of her and rang us, then gave her to the police, who looked after her until DH got to her, but then we had hell as the other two girls were still missing.

it was one of the girls who supplied the alcohol, and altho I stated they plied my DD with it, it was a three-way thing......and they got caught out badly.

you know what, I love my DD1 so so so much, and the thought of 'what if' has been ever present in my mind all day. I was livid this morning with her, so very very angry, but at NO POINT would it even cross my mind to even come close to what you did. I would not even THREATEN to lock her out.

you fucking wanking useless piece of parent.

when we are blessed with our children, we are responsible for them until they are adults. (that is supposed to be 18, but I am not quite convinced of this yet).

at 15, she is still a child.

my 15yr old is still a child.

it is our job to protect and teach them until they can take care of themselves, for better or worse.

I hope to god your own parents are ashamed of you tonight. I would be ashamed to raise a person who could treat his own child as you claim to.

themildmanneredjanitor · 24/05/2009 23:02

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Yurtgirl · 24/05/2009 23:03

I despair and am going to bed

Read the thread peeps

LovingtheSilverFox · 24/05/2009 23:04

I have no teenage rearing experience, but can remember what it was like to be one.

I think the best course of action would be to apologise for your over reaction last night, explain why you stuck your ground, and why you do not want her to smoke under your roof. However if her compromise is to go outside to smoke, I don't think that is unreasonable. My dear mother once said, I will always love you, although I may not like the things you grow up to do. Or something like that.

She is a personality fast approaching adult hood, she will have to make decisions on her own, some, possibily, most of which you may not like. Do not hate her for this, be proud that you have raised a daughter who knows her own mind.

From reading your original post, may be some more reassurance on your part that you will always love her wouldn't go amiss either.

BigBellasBeerBelly · 24/05/2009 23:05

Personally I do not think it is appropriate to have 15 yo girls out wandering the streets all night.

It is less safe when there are so few people around. And when you're cold and lonely and sad you are more likely to do something silly. Like accept a lift to somewhere warmer.

I do think that should be a matter for social services actually.

noddyholder · 24/05/2009 23:10

mmj are you kidding?Being a little madam is hardly grounds for what to me is child abuse.

themildmanneredjanitor · 24/05/2009 23:12

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SheSellsSeashellsByTheSeashore · 24/05/2009 23:16

My Dad locked me out of the house when I was 17. I had been on a night out and he didn't think it was appropriate for a 17 y o to be out that late so to teach me a lesson, he locked me out all night .

I phoned my boyfriend and he paid for me to get a taxi to his house. I moved in with him the next day.

My mum still has not forgiven him.

You have some serious grovelling to do to your daughter, I would suggest you start now.

Nighbynight · 24/05/2009 23:22

Arent you a bit humiliated to think that she went to a friends? washing your dirty linen in public, and all that. you are the one with teh responsibility to look after her, not her friends.

NiceShoes · 24/05/2009 23:22

blimey what a disproportionate response.you both locked in a toxic rage

themoon66 · 24/05/2009 23:24

shesellsseashells.... that was what i did too.

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sandcastles · 24/05/2009 23:48

Are you serious?

"Part of me would be glad to get shot of her, but at her age, we still have 'parental responsibility" Could you make that seem any more begrudging if you tried? When I read that I thought that maybe you were the step father perhaps!

"And no, I've no idea where she is" And you profess to care about her?

You locked your vulnerable teenage girl outside, at close to midnigh. You have no idea where she is now. It is beyond belief!

silkcushion · 24/05/2009 23:49

I refuse to believe this is anything other than nonsense - never happened

nappyaddict · 25/05/2009 01:43

So her school will expell her for just knowing she smokes? Surely they will only expell her for smoking if she does it in school time or dressed in school uniform?